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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part II)
FOX ^ | 3-25-06

Posted on 03/24/2006 9:00:43 PM PST by silent_jonny

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To: Wyatt's Torch

Another great toon! :)

ll About Taylor Hicks
http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2006/04/all_about_taylo.html

Taylor Hicks has gained a large and loyal following among American Idol viewers, but there is a certain British judge that has laid down some harsh criticism of his performance style. For much of the competition, Simon Cowell has directed insults at Taylor ranging from comparing him to a drunk dad at a wedding to straight out asking him if he was drunk after a recent performance. During the Great American Songbook theme show, Rod Stewart came to Taylor Hick’s defense, and disagreed with Simon Cowell’s criticism. Rod Stewart professed that singers “must do every thing you possible can within reason to sell the song” and called Taylor “a pretty good mover.”

Reality TV Magazine wanted to get the inside scoop on this unique and original singer and recently interviewed Carl Douglas, who met Taylor during his Freshman year in college at Auburn University and has been friends with Taylor for about 12 years. Carl told Reality TV Magazine that Taylor’s “early childhood was very much like many of us, he played most all sports growing up, and of course had a tremendous amount of passion for music.” Carl also revealed that Taylor “first developed an interest in music as soon as he could talk. He would run around the house singing and dancing at the age of 2 or 3.”

Singing isn’t Taylor’s only musical talent, Carl pointed out that Taylor also plays the guitar and the harp. In regards to Taylor’s previous bands and current band, Carl said “Taylor has probably played in 2 or 3 bands. In high school and college he played in a band called Passing Through, he has performed over the last 8 or 9 yrs with the Taylor Hicks Band. While he is currently competing to be the next American idol, his former band members are playing under the name of Little Memphis Blues Orchestra. He has also sat in as a guest musician with several bands for fun, because that's what he enjoys to do, he loves to entertain people. And I truly think that's what he was born to do, entertain.” According to Carl, Taylor has released two cd’s: In your time and Under the Radar.

As far as Taylor’s life outside of music, Carl told Reality TV Magazine that “as far as his interest/hobbies would have to be playing golf, and watching SEC football when he and I get together. He is a big sports fan.”

Reality TV Magazine also asked Carl about the past reports that Taylor might be considering a change of hair color. Carl told us “I do not think Taylor Hicks will ever dye his hair. We have talked about it a few times and if it is up to him he will definitely NOT dye his hair. He didn't dye it gray, and he doesn't plan on dying it back brown.”

Reality TV Magazine also asked about a recent report on TMZ.com that said Taylor Hicks was offended by Simon Cowell asking him if he was drunk after a recent performance. Carl said “And yes to answer your additional question, Hicks was a little surprised by Simon's comment. Making false accusations on national TV is not very professional. Taylor has a very wide range of fans in age, and he appreciates all of them. I don't think I would want to be labeled by Simon to spice up his show either. He could have potentially lost fans by that false comment, and that is unfair. He has already moved on from that comment and we hope everyone else can as well.”

Carl, who talks once or twice a week to Taylor, also told Reality TV Magazine that Taylor Hicks “is doing really well and having lots of fun, they are working him hard but it is something that he really enjoys, so that helps. All of our families and friends could not be more proud of Taylor. He has stepped out of the box, and stayed true to himself. Taylor has worked really hard to get to this point in his career, and now all of that hard work is going to pay off. Taylor loves his fans and really appreciates all of their support.”


7,461 posted on 04/20/2006 7:29:30 PM PDT by Netizen
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Bo Knows Bar Fights: Bice Allegedly Scuffles With Ex-NFL Player

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1529145/20060420/bice__bo.jhtml?headlines=true

04.20.2006 2:46 PM EDT

Former 'Idol' finalist punched ex-New York Giant star Glenn Parker, according to bar manager.

We could make a joke about picking on someone your own size. Or even crack wise about how in New York recently, Bo Bice almost punched a one-way ticket to the "Valley of Angels" he sings about on his debut album.

Hell, we could even come up with some clever play on words, like Bo versus the Volcano. But, here's the thing: Even we don't think it's that funny that the former "American Idol" runner-up allegedly picked a fight with a 6-foot-5-inch, 300-pound former NFL lineman at O'Brien's Bar & Grill.

According to bar manager Cormack, a tipsy Bice was sitting at the bar Sunday night a few stools down from ex-New York Giants player and 12-year NFL veteran Glenn Parker, 39, who at some point leaned over and asked the singer if he was the Bo Bice from "Idol."

Cormack said Bice denied his identity and said his name was Kevin. A short time later, "Glenn came over to apologize to him and [Bice] had a go at 'im," Cormack said. "Glenn caught him and didn't swing back and I tried to separate them and as I was getting him off Glenn, he caught Glenn on the chin.

"Glenn's a big man and he never laid a hand on him. I have no idea why [Bice] acted that way, but Glenn could have really hurt him."

A spokesperson for Bice had no comment on the incident at press time.


7,462 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:35 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Wyatt's Torch
The latest:


7,463 posted on 04/20/2006 7:46:58 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen
"Cormack said Bice denied his identity and said his name was Kevin. A short time later, "Glenn came over to apologize to him and [Bice] had a go at 'im," Cormack said. "Glenn caught him and didn't swing back and I tried to separate them and as I was getting him off Glenn, he caught Glenn on the chin"

If there's anything to this, then Bice just dropped a few points with me.

7,464 posted on 04/20/2006 7:51:33 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Wolfstar
It just seems that mixing Bocelli and the AI contestants is like trying to mix oil and water.

Make that some contestants.

Katherine and Elliot will benefit. They will be in our near their element. Paris is unpredictable - I have no idea. Chris will be forced out of his hard rock comfort zone, the one that normally hauls in the votes. I thought he was terrific this week ... finally - but his fans abandoned him and he slipped to the bottom two out of six. That's scary if you think you are the fans favorite. Kellie has no chance. Taylor always seem to find a way.

My prediction for next week - It will by bye bye to Paris. Then Kellie. Then Elliot. Final three will be Katherine, Taylor and Chris. And then Katherine and Taylor. Winner: Probably Taylor but I'm pulling for Katherine.

7,465 posted on 04/20/2006 8:02:04 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Senator Goldwater
I was never a Bice fan.

My folks used to own a bar and a couple of things come to mind. Bice would be the out of towner, the former Giants player a regular or at minimum a local and a football star to boot. So, the manager could be defending Glenn, not that Glenn necessarily did anything wrong.

The article says that Bice was tipsy, BUT, it doesn't tell us if Glenn was sober or tipsy, too.

The other article said Bice was half snockered. To me that's a bit more than tipsy. Sure, it sounds like minutae, but it could make a difference.

We don't know if Bice was joking when he said no, his name was Kevin, we don't know if Glenn asked the question in a funny tone. Bice could have been joking and referring to Kevin Covais from New York, thinking it would get a laugh.

If they were only a couple of bar stools apart, why did Glenn have to go ever to say 'sorry'? He could have just said it loud enough for Bice to hear him and then let it go.

I can't help but feel that there might be something missing from the stories, but if there is, we probably will never hear about it.

That 'alledged' punch to Glenn's chine, may have been nothing more than Bice flailing his hands or arms to get away from the manager.

The manager didn't get in between the two, to protect Glenn. who could probably more than take care of himself. The manager was protecting property. Not wanting busted glasses, ashtrays, or stools. Rule of thumb when a fight breaks out or looks like it will is 'get it outside'.

I have seen big hulks of guys literally walk right out of buttoned flannel shirts, when their shirt was grabbed from behind, just to get at their target!

Maybe Bice's people will release a statement over the next few days and we'll know more.

The whole thing seems a little weird though.

7,466 posted on 04/20/2006 8:13:33 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: silent_jonny

CLASSIC LOVE SONGS... MY SONG CHOICES FOR THE CONTESTANTS ( Note, I am trying to choose WELL KNOWN SONGS FROM THE PAST that have been known to be classics ( i.e., undying). Otherwise I don't know how Andrea Bocelli can even thinkof coaching these kids ).

Taylor .. anyone of these :

1) WITHOUT YOU ( Harry Nilson ) -- The chorus -- "Can't Live if Living is without you" is your style.

2) Smoke Gets In Your Eyes --- Can you sustain the ending for at least 8 seconds ?

3) I Can't Stop Loving You -- Ray Charles ( who else )

4) You've Lost That Loving Feeling - Righteous Brothers

5) We’re All Alone - Boz Skaggs

6) ME AND MRS. JONES (Billy Paul )

7) MY LOVE ( Paul McCartney )




Chris

1) CRYING ( Roy Orbison) If you want to scream/yell, now's your chance. But the falsetto near the end will challenge you. This is an outstandingly haunting song but is a challenge to sing.

Yes, it’s true that no male singer has ever tried this because it is hard. It requires a transition to falsetto and the ending will tax your range and ability to sustain the high note for at least 6 seconds without cracking.

I’d like to see Taylor *OR* Chris try it. If you can do justice to it, it will be a super WOW moment and you have the crown in the bag.

2) Have I Told You Lately (That I Love You ) -- ROD STEWART

3) LAYLA -- Eric Clapton

4) ALWAYS -- Bon Jovi

It's hard to pick a song that Andrea Bocelli can coach for Chris Daughtry. The two of them go together like Oil and Water. It's also hard to find a hard edged love song because there's practically none out there.

Rock is about not conforming and that makes this genre a problem for Chris (again). So he's got to compromise and I don't know if his diehard fans can take it.



Paris (I'm trying to find one that fits her age)

1) THE MAN I LOVE -- Billie Holiday

2) HOW HIGH THE MOON -- Ella Fitzerald

3) ONE LESS BELL TO ANSWER -- Fifth Dimension

4) NEITHER ONE OF US ( WANTS TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY GOODBYE) -- Gladys Knight

5) THE FIRST TIME EVER I SAW YOUR FACE -- Roberta Flack




Kellie Pickler ( again, How is Bocelli going to coach her ?)

I'll Just choose love songs that are REAL CLASSIC hoping Bocelli had heard of them. Faith Hill, Martina Mcbride, Shania or any of those new cross over country singers.

1) Tennesee Waltz ( Patti Page ) -- REAL HEART BREAKER, TRY EVA CASSIDY's VERSION.

2) Stand By Your Man ( Tammy Wynnette ) -- NEVER PERFORMED ON THE SHOW.

3) CRAZY (Patsy Cline)

4) I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU ( Whitney Houston ) -- But listen to Dolly Parton's version

5) COLD DAY IN JULY ( Dixie Chicks )



Katharine -- Easiest for Bocelli to coach. Her broadway style is closest to his.

1) SOMEWHERE -- West Side Story

2) EVERGREEN -- Barbra Streisand

3) THE WAY WE WERE -- Barbra Streisand

4) SAVING ALL MY LOVE FOR YOU -- Whitney Houston

5) Almost Like Being In Love -- Jazz it up for a change.



ELLIOTT

1) ALL THE WAY -- Frank Sinatra

2) WHO CAN I TURN I TURN TO -- Sammy Davis Jr

3) HERE AND NOW -- Luther Vandros

4) TURN OFF THE LIGHTS -- Teddy Pendergrass

5) WITH THESE HANDS -- Tom Jones ( Bocelli knows this song and has performed it ). It'll require some vocal stretching but the ending is a bomb if Elliott can reach it.

6) IT's NOT UNUSUAL -- Tom Jones ( if Elliott wants to go upbeat).

7) CHANCES ARE -- Johnny Mathis

COMMENTS, DISAGREEMENTS, ADDITIONS, WELCOME


7,467 posted on 04/20/2006 9:21:59 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: InterceptPoint
Winner: Probably Taylor but I'm pulling for Katherine.

I'm a fan of Taylor but this will look like the better ending for me. I can't imagine how Taylor's career will look like under 19E.

Kat Mcphee on the other hand is the perfect blend of voice and beauty that 19E can promote.

All well and good if it happens this way.
7,468 posted on 04/20/2006 9:24:18 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Good suggestions, Links. I would mildly correct you by saying "Have I Told You Lately" is a classic Van Morrison song, redone by Stewart. That makes it perfect for Taylor, he covers Van a lot in his club performances. Also, "Baby I'm Amazed" would be good for Taylor, seeing that Paul McCartney spazzes out for the last minute and a half of the song!

I really like your idea of "It's Not Unusual" for Elliot. He needs to show a fun, sexy side to continue his ascent.
7,469 posted on 04/20/2006 10:15:43 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain
I cannot hear "It's Not Unusual" without thinking of Carlton on Fresh Prince of Bel Air and his incredibly goofy dance to that song.
7,470 posted on 04/21/2006 3:39:44 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch
So, how about song suggestions for "Love Songs" week for Chris? I'm thinking things like: ... All I Want is You - U2

How about: I Need Your Love - U2

Its edgier.

Pardon the pun.

7,471 posted on 04/21/2006 5:10:55 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Netizen; TonyWpi
I've always wondered about the ear monitor bit. Do they 'need' the ear monitor? Did Diana rely on it too much? I mean, if she hadn't relied upon it so much, could she have survived its malfunction?

If you can't hear, you can't sing. Period.

7,472 posted on 04/21/2006 5:31:27 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: SirLinksalot

I like your picks and add these. I tried to stay away from anything too new, since I'm not sure how old a song would need to be to be considered a 'classic' or a 'greatest' love song. I too, had picked Stand By Your Man for, Kellie.

Paris - Saving All My Love For You

Taylor - When A Man Loves A Woman

Chris - Nights In White Satin

Elliot - Since I Fell For You

Katharine - At Last

Kellie - Stand By Your Man


7,473 posted on 04/21/2006 6:02:58 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: SirLinksalot
I'm a fan of Taylor but this will look like the better ending for me. I can't imagine how Taylor's career will look like under 19E.

I think you ahve to keep in ind that 19E won't be running his career. I think it's just a year isn't it? Carrie's first CD is good so I see no reason why his wouldn't be. It's about money, so why would they sabotage their winner?

At any rate, I think he could certainly stick it out a year with them. :)

7,474 posted on 04/21/2006 6:06:24 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: kevkrom; TonyWpi
If you can't hear, you can't sing. Period.

Right, but Tony explained why they might not be able to hear.

7,475 posted on 04/21/2006 6:07:57 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: SirLinksalot
Have I Told You Lately is a Van Morrison song, adapted by Rod Stewart.
7,476 posted on 04/21/2006 6:41:04 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: SirLinksalot
"Stand By Your Man ( Tammy Wynnette ) -- NEVER PERFORMED ON THE SHOW"

Kellie did this number on "Charlotte is Listening", a local singing competition in which she placed second.

As you may know, since I watched the newsreel footage from one of your links.

7,477 posted on 04/21/2006 6:44:24 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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"http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/american_idol_5/2006_Apr_21_taylor_scripted

Taylor's selection of the "safe" group was scripted by American Idol's producer

On Wednesday’s American Idol 5 elimination episode, Ryan Seacrest told Taylor Hicks to join the group he thought would be safe. Taylor pretended to join one group but then faked them out, joining the correct “safe” group instead.

As it turns out, this whole act was, naturally, just another example of executive producer Nigel Lythgoe’s sadism. Although Lythgoe did not know who was eliminated, he did know which contestants were in the bottom three, so he instructed Taylor to shake hands with Chris and then go to the other group. Basically, the whole thing was scripted.

Access Hollywood’s Laura Saltman has the details:

Don’t think Taylor picking the “safe” group was of his own accord. During the commercial break, Executive Producer, Nigel Lythgoe, filled Taylor in on the fake-out handshake to Chris Daughtry and which group to choose. It turns out Nigel doesn’t know who is going to be eliminated. He is kept in the dark until the very end. The only thing he knows is which three contestants are in the bottom three.
7,478 posted on 04/21/2006 6:44:48 AM PDT by LA Woman3 ("Softly call the Muster, let comrade answer 'Here'...")
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To: over3Owithabrain
"That makes it perfect for Taylor, he covers Van a lot in his club performances"

I wish he would do it on this show. What other Van numbers does Taylor cover?

I can hear him doing justice to such Morrison chestnuts as "Into the Mystic", "Tupelo Honey" or "Hymns to the Silence".

7,479 posted on 04/21/2006 6:47:35 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: SirLinksalot
"MY LOVE ( Paul McCartney )"

Might work better with Elliot's plaintive delivery more so than for Taylor.

But a great number either way.

7,480 posted on 04/21/2006 6:51:22 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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