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Skull discovery could fill origins gap
Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | Fri Mar 24, 11:02 AM ET

Posted on 03/24/2006 11:47:46 AM PST by The_Victor

ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - A hominid skull discovered in Ethiopia could fill the gap in the search for the origins of the human race, a scientist said on Friday.

The cranium, found near the city of Gawis, 500 km (300 miles) southeast of the capital Addis Ababa, is estimated to be 200,000 to 500,000 years old.

The skull appeared "to be intermediate between the earlier Homo erectus and the later Homo sapiens," Sileshi Semaw, an Ethiopian research scientist at the Stone Age Institute at Indiana University, told a news conference in Addis Ababa.

It was discovered two months ago in a small gully at the Gawis river drainage basin in Ethiopia's Afar region, southeast of the capital.

Sileshi said significant archaeological collections of stone tools and numerous fossil animals were also found at Gawis.

"(It) opens a window into an intriguing and important period in the development of modern humans," Sileshi said.

Over the last 50 years, Ethiopia has been a hot bed for archaeological discoveries.

Hadar, located near Gawis, is where in 1974 U.S. scientist Donald Johnson found the 3.2 million year old remains of "Lucy," described by scientists as one of the greatest archaeological discoveries in the world.

Lucy is Ethiopia's world-acclaimed archaeological find. The discovery of the almost complete hominid skeleton was a landmark in the search for the origins of humanity.

On the shores of what was formerly a lake in 1967, two Homo sapien skulls dating back 195,000 years were unearthed. The discovery pushed back the known date of mankind, suggesting that modern man and his older precursor existed side by side.

Sileshi said while different from a modern human, the braincase, upper face and jaw of the cranium have unmistakeable anatomical evidence that belong to human ancestry.

"The Gawis cranium provides us with the opportunity to look at the face of one of our ancestors," he added.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: crevolist; godsgravesglyphs; missinglink; origins; stillmissing
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To: fortheDeclaration
Oh, come on now!

There is not one so-called 'transitional' skull that can be proved to be a transitional skull.

It is either a human skull or an animal one.

Good, you should have no problem answering post 50. (Substitute "just an animal" for "just an ape".)
81 posted on 03/24/2006 2:55:16 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Here we go with the playing of terms.

I am not attempting to play with terms. I am pointing out an apparent contradiction in your statement.

We are talking about a transition from ape to man (correct?) which means from animal to mankind.

Humans are animals. There is no transition from one to the other.

So, the transitional species would be a kind of both, now wouldn't he/it?

Yes, but there would be no point at which the species is not "animal". Humans are classified as part of the kingdom Animalia.

So the evolutionists are looking for something that is neither completely animal or human.

This is not accurate. The specimen would in fact be completely animal.
82 posted on 03/24/2006 2:56:20 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: The_Victor
Direct descendant:


83 posted on 03/24/2006 2:58:02 PM PST by quark
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To: blowfish
If you're going to site the bible, I hope you can provide some independent references to support your claims. A book of legends, oft-edited historical accounts and rumor doesn't qualify in a discussion of science.

Really?

The Bible has shown itself to be accurate on everything it speaks of, both historically and scientifically.

Do you know that the idea of anesthesia came from a scientist reading Genesis and seeing how God put Adam into a deep sleep?

Same with washing of hands to keep infections down.

See Leviticus.

Ofcourse, when these two scientists put forth these discoveries they were attacked and ridiculed by the 'great' scientific communities of their day.

The fool has said in his heart there is no God. (Psa.14:1)

84 posted on 03/24/2006 2:58:04 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: Dimensio; fortheDeclaration
I am not attempting to play with terms. I am pointing out an apparent contradiction in your statement.

Allow me to clarify: You're "playing" with "terms" because you're using ones the poster doesn't understand. Kindly limit your vocabulary to words used by Jack Chick.

85 posted on 03/24/2006 3:01:35 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: quark

If I were a homo habilis, I'd be insulted.


86 posted on 03/24/2006 3:01:41 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Do you know that the idea of anesthesia came from a scientist reading Genesis and seeing how God put Adam into a deep sleep?

Do you have a reference for this claim? I was not aware of this particular aspect of the history of anesthesia.
87 posted on 03/24/2006 3:02:02 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I take it, then, that you buy the WJB assertion that humans are not mammals?


88 posted on 03/24/2006 3:03:49 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Dimensio
Here we go with the playing of terms. I am not attempting to play with terms. I am pointing out an apparent contradiction in your statement. We are talking about a transition from ape to man (correct?) which means from animal to mankind. Humans are animals. There is no transition from one to the other.

No they aren't.

That is where the 'new' terms come in.

A man is not an animal.

So, the transitional species would be a kind of both, now wouldn't he/it? Yes, but there would be no point at which the species is not "animal". Humans are classified as part of the kingdom Animalia. So the evolutionists are looking for something that is neither completely animal or human. This is not accurate. The specimen would in fact be completely animal.

No, the thing would be neither be animal nor human.

It would be a transition from the one to the other.

Once, again playing games with terms.

But leaving aside the word games, it would be a transition from an ape to a man, an intermediate creature which does not exist, nor ever existed.

These are the transition creatures that the fossil record was suppose to show but never did, so now you are looking at skulls.

89 posted on 03/24/2006 3:04:25 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The Bible has shown itself to be accurate on everything it speaks of, both historically and scientifically.

How many legs does a locust have?
Does a hare chew its cud?
Are bats and birds the same?
Please state the corroborating evidence for a world wide flood.

90 posted on 03/24/2006 3:04:57 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: bobbdobbs

Wrong! I've heard the term "missing link" for forty years used by all sorts of people.


91 posted on 03/24/2006 3:05:00 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free
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To: fortheDeclaration
A man is not an animal.

I am afraid that you are mistaken. Biological taxonomy classifies homo sapiens as members of kingdom Animalia. If you have evidence that this classification is incorrect, I will hear it out, but I do not believe that there exists compelling evidence to suggest that humans are actually members of a different biological kingdom.

But leaving aside the word games, it would be a transition from an ape to a man, an intermediate creature which does not exist, nor ever existed.

If this is true, how do you explain various specimens that are classified as intermediate forms between ancestral apes and contemporary humans?
92 posted on 03/24/2006 3:07:14 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The Bible has shown itself to be accurate on everything it speaks of, both historically and scientifically.

Yeah, it really nailed it with the whole 'sun stopping for a day' thing. I've seen that one myself many times.

94 posted on 03/24/2006 3:09:53 PM PST by blowfish
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To: Gumlegs
> Pretty soon there'll be nothing but gaps and everything will cease to exist.

And not a moment too soon!

"Er..." he said, "hello. Er, look, I'm sorry I'm a bit late. I've had the most ghastly time, all sorts of things cropping up at the last moment."
He seemed nervous of the expectant awed hush. He cleared his throat.
"Er, how are we for time?" he said, "have I just got a min-"
And so the Universe ended.
- The Great Prophet Zarquon
95 posted on 03/24/2006 3:11:13 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: The_Victor

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...same old crap....what's that name for agenda research?


96 posted on 03/24/2006 3:12:18 PM PST by wardaddy (why are so many lesbicans cops?......and why do they hate me?)
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To: bobbdobbs

Are we evolving into something else was my question. Dna does not evolve does it? It only mutates into a disease? Environmental adaptation was not the question. Real adaptation would be those living in the northern states to start growing coats of fur for the winter months.


99 posted on 03/24/2006 3:16:54 PM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: fortheDeclaration
A man is not an animal.

So... that leaves vegetable or mineral. Which is it? :-)

Seriously, I want you to take the survey in post 50. Since there are no transitionals between ape and human, it should be easy.

100 posted on 03/24/2006 3:19:56 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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