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Skull discovery could fill origins gap
Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | Fri Mar 24, 11:02 AM ET

Posted on 03/24/2006 11:47:46 AM PST by The_Victor

ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - A hominid skull discovered in Ethiopia could fill the gap in the search for the origins of the human race, a scientist said on Friday.

The cranium, found near the city of Gawis, 500 km (300 miles) southeast of the capital Addis Ababa, is estimated to be 200,000 to 500,000 years old.

The skull appeared "to be intermediate between the earlier Homo erectus and the later Homo sapiens," Sileshi Semaw, an Ethiopian research scientist at the Stone Age Institute at Indiana University, told a news conference in Addis Ababa.

It was discovered two months ago in a small gully at the Gawis river drainage basin in Ethiopia's Afar region, southeast of the capital.

Sileshi said significant archaeological collections of stone tools and numerous fossil animals were also found at Gawis.

"(It) opens a window into an intriguing and important period in the development of modern humans," Sileshi said.

Over the last 50 years, Ethiopia has been a hot bed for archaeological discoveries.

Hadar, located near Gawis, is where in 1974 U.S. scientist Donald Johnson found the 3.2 million year old remains of "Lucy," described by scientists as one of the greatest archaeological discoveries in the world.

Lucy is Ethiopia's world-acclaimed archaeological find. The discovery of the almost complete hominid skeleton was a landmark in the search for the origins of humanity.

On the shores of what was formerly a lake in 1967, two Homo sapien skulls dating back 195,000 years were unearthed. The discovery pushed back the known date of mankind, suggesting that modern man and his older precursor existed side by side.

Sileshi said while different from a modern human, the braincase, upper face and jaw of the cranium have unmistakeable anatomical evidence that belong to human ancestry.

"The Gawis cranium provides us with the opportunity to look at the face of one of our ancestors," he added.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: crevolist; godsgravesglyphs; missinglink; origins; stillmissing
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
We do not speciate in one lifetime though.

Maybe if you were lucky.


301 posted on 03/24/2006 7:48:25 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Youngblood
Just where, or from whom or what, did you learn biology?

A Jack Chick tract.

302 posted on 03/24/2006 7:49:54 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Why use an obvious fake to support the idea that the evidence cannot be made to fit the assumptions?

??? Because it's the ideal test case as to whether REAL patterns are being found in the fossil history, or whether (as your hypothesis suggests) they are just being imposed on the data. If the former then faked evidence should NOT fit in with the real evidence. If the later then it wouldn't matter.

303 posted on 03/24/2006 7:51:08 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew; PatrickHenry

Fester,

Patrick Henry is of the opinion that there is no point to a CREVO thread if it gets taken off the mainforum lineup, as these backroom sessions get few lurkers (thus, no fence-sitters to whom a good dose of science will be of benefit) and there is essentially ZERO chance that anyone entrenched on either side will change his stance through discussion.

there was no call for you to get personal about it, Fester


304 posted on 03/24/2006 7:51:16 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: bobdsmith; fortheDeclaration

Wrong, when the antievo's make statements, it is never their job to back them up.

Right, ftd?


305 posted on 03/24/2006 7:52:22 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Fortunately there are some on the side of evolutionism who have the intellectual fortitude to stick around.

Well, yeah. Either that or we're laughing too hard at the creatoid parade and freak show to stand up and walk away from the computer.

306 posted on 03/24/2006 7:54:38 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; fortheDeclaration
Good! Then you should have no problem with Jenny's test.

FTD will NOT be doing Jenny's test. That would support or refute his or her unsupported statements. And anti-evos do not, unlike everyone else in forum, back up or support their statements.

307 posted on 03/24/2006 7:55:47 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: orionblamblam
> I do skeletal analysis as part of my work as an archaeologist.

Ah. So you admit to being a biased scientist, just out looking to grub up government grants! Your opinions should be ignored.

(...says the aerospace engineer working for a NASA contractor)

And just why do we need "scientist archaeologist's" anyway! Everything is all described in the Bible.

(....says the quality engineer manufacturing human implantable devices)

308 posted on 03/24/2006 7:58:24 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Gumlegs
Sentient people assume that those who can't distinguish between 8 and 22 and who don't care to learn the difference have little to contribute in a discussion of science.

Depends on the meaning of the symbols "8" and "22".

/postfestermodernism>

309 posted on 03/24/2006 8:02:02 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: b_sharp

Show me a transitory fossil from one life form into another life form.


310 posted on 03/24/2006 8:02:55 PM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

pick a fossil, any fossil.

got one?
good.

guess what? you have chosen a deviation from its population's statistical norm. If it had descendants, then its fossilized remains fit your requirements.


311 posted on 03/24/2006 8:05:55 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: b_sharp

Renewal is not change. each generation does not bring change. If it does on a minuscule basis how many billions of years did it take for man to evolve to what we are today?


312 posted on 03/24/2006 8:09:32 PM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: Dimensio
If this is the case, then into which biological kingdom should homo sapiens be classified?

I'm pretty sure it depends. If a man is in the sea, he would be classified in the fish kingdom with squids and mantee.
313 posted on 03/24/2006 8:17:52 PM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: King Prout
. . . ZERO chance that anyone entrenched on either side will change his stance . . .

Preachers do enjoy a wider audience. How many conversions does the Worldwide Church of Evolution boast of this evening? The Church of Organized Matter and Intelligent Design is running exactly as planned.

314 posted on 03/24/2006 8:21:56 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: King Prout

Let see if I pick a fossil of a oyster are you telling me that some day that oysters descendant would be a polar bear?

One question what have you been smoking how much is it and can I buy some?


315 posted on 03/24/2006 8:23:42 PM PST by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

It's called "Zinjanthropos Weed."


316 posted on 03/24/2006 8:32:34 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
Let see if I pick a fossil of a oyster are you telling me that some day that oysters descendant would be a polar bear?

Nope.

One question what have you been smoking how much is it and can I buy some?

judging by the puerile inanities and addled non-sequiturs you offer instead of thought, I suspect you are too young to legally smoke anything.

317 posted on 03/24/2006 8:33:59 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?; King Prout
Let see if I pick a fossil of a oyster are you telling me that some day that oysters descendant would be a polar bear?

No. We would assure you that NONE of it's descendents were bears (or any sort of mammal, or tetrapod for that matter).

318 posted on 03/24/2006 8:36:44 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
No. We would assure you that NONE of it's descendents were bears (or any sort of mammal, or tetrapod for that matter).

(...or chordate)

really - the quality of creationist non-sequitur seems to have fallen off badly since Dover

319 posted on 03/24/2006 8:51:16 PM PST by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks Pharmboy.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
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320 posted on 03/24/2006 10:24:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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