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V Is For Vapid (Don Feder Slams Hollywood Far Left's Paranoid Fantasies Alert)
Frontpagemag.com ^ | March 20, 2006 | Don Feder

Posted on 03/20/2006 2:27:38 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
Are these people really that stupid or are they really trying to spread lies and create another communist nation.

Both.

41 posted on 03/20/2006 5:05:04 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: napscoordinator

Your post in response #36 will be removed because you posted a complete article from USA Today.

This is the third post in the past four hours where you have ignored copyright restrictions.

Review the following before posting again:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts


42 posted on 03/20/2006 5:07:15 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Has anyone here actually seen the movie? I have. Here are my comments.

1) In one scene they show a Koran hidden away from the police. Natalie Portman sas " Oh my, if they caught you with that Koran, they will arrest you!" her friend responds, "I know but I couldn't help having this beautiful book with its beautiful poetry."
2) Theres a truck running around the city listening in on everyone's conversations. They report back to the leader what the "feeling of the masses" are. (ala NSA..)
3) The second in command mysteriously looks similar to Cheney.
4) Years ago in the movie a terrorist attack was supposed have happend in the UK that united the people to fight the terrorists. This of course was all created by the government.
5) In one scene John Hurt (The leader) says that "We have to keep the people in a state of fear so that they have a need for us." Meanwhile you see on the news flashes of "Avian Flu" and other tragedies.

The movie was blatantly anti-Bush but I did enjoy it. I'm a comic book collector and Alan Moore should have asked them to do a movie about "The Watchmen". Considering that the green light came from DC Comics which is owned by AOL-Time Warner, its no surprise. In todays cmoncs SuperMan doesn't even work for the USA anymore. He's more of a United Nations type of guy.


43 posted on 03/20/2006 5:33:12 AM PST by FreeManWhoCan (---an American with Cuban genes in Miami.............)
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To: chief_bigfoot
"Their take was that his comic book series was in response to Margaret Thatcher's reign of conservative terror."

- I agree with your understanding.
I used to collect comic books and having Alan Moore's name on the cover as the "writer" of the storyline (he never did the artwork) always increased the comics value because his imaginative narratives appealed to the target buyers who were and are mostly teenagers.
Moore developed the original V series as a reaction against the then Prime Minister Margeret Thatcher whose get tough policies against British unions and their leftist supporters were very unpopular among the literati.
I was told by a comic book dealer at the time (but can't confirm) that Moore, who is famously eccentric, was openly gay which might account for the prominently bitter anti Christian tone.
Once the movie hit North America it was almost a foregone conclusion that the left leaning movie review community would pounce on it as being an anti Bush polemic as opposed to a 25 year old anti Thatcher rant and so some 70% of them have been giving it rave reviews just as they did for Fudgepack Mountain.
From the movie reviews that I have read, the movie is basically, like it's source, a Batman like fantasy only with strong political overtones.
While it seems to be doing well at the box office, I suspect it's audience, like the comic book, are mostly teenage mouth breathers and so it's political "message" will be largely lost among the colorful explosions and splashing blood which attracts them to it.
44 posted on 03/20/2006 5:36:49 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: goldstategop

I dare Hollywood to produce a similar movie with Moslems instead of Christians as the bad guys...


45 posted on 03/20/2006 5:46:27 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Thanks for the details...though everyone's bashing it here, I have a feeling most of us will see it anyway, "just to see how bad Hollywood really is..." and yet enjoy the flick.


46 posted on 03/20/2006 5:50:22 AM PST by php5
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To: goldstategop

On the bright side, at least it'll keep the DUmmies busy panhandling so they can see the movie.

47 posted on 03/20/2006 5:55:22 AM PST by Fintan (Hey, you can't make this stuff up.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Could such a movie actually be made? Without fear of reprisals, that is? The insurance would go through the roof.


48 posted on 03/20/2006 5:56:10 AM PST by Frank T
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To: php5

Nope.


49 posted on 03/20/2006 5:56:40 AM PST by Frank T
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To: goldstategop
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists."

That is pretty dang funny, considering that atheism is a cornerstone of Communism.

50 posted on 03/20/2006 6:00:27 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: goldstategop

"Hold me like you held me on Naboo!"


51 posted on 03/20/2006 6:02:17 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: backhoe

I saw all three LOTR movies in the theater without being subjected to rude people and cell phones. If they are re-released for theatrical viewing, by all means go....even if you have to complain to the usher about someone's cell phone, it's highly worthwhile, compared to TV viewing


52 posted on 03/20/2006 6:04:55 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

"4) Years ago in the movie a terrorist attack was supposed have happend in the UK that united the people to fight the terrorists. This of course was all created by the government."

Shades of Paul Craig Roberts. He's the "conservative" who thinks Bush will orchestrate the detonation of a nuclear bomb off the coast as a ruse needed to launch a pre-emptive war on Iran.

I should put "thinks" in quotation marks as well. I suspect that these kinds of people, and their leftist cousins, understand the truth behinds such episodes, when they happen.

If you are Paul Craig Roberts, you probably understand very well that the Iranian regime is such that it will try something major. But you also believe that the costs - whatever they are - of going to war are greater. So if you are intelligent enough to know that the Iranians have the capability to make nuclear weapons and have the motive to get someone to set one off near American, but you don't want a war in response, you do a pre-emptive launch yourself: claim that the American administration is setting up this ruse, for what you fear the Iranians will quite possibly undertake. And when it DOES happen, you have the appearance of some sort of credibility, and undermine the war response.

Same with the leftists and terrorism. They *know* its Muslim jihadists who are behind bombings these days, but if another "big one" happens, they'll try and make it out that the government - whether in Britain or in the US - is really responsible.

It's all about undermining - their version of pre-emption.


53 posted on 03/20/2006 6:05:30 AM PST by Frank T
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To: ko_kyi

All atheism was for, in bringing about Communist regimes, is as a mechanism - sweep out the old regime/religion via imposed "atheism," then yo-yo back to something akin to the old regime, but without the previous religious political structure, and worse liberty violations.


54 posted on 03/20/2006 6:07:55 AM PST by Frank T
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To: goldstategop
Saw it this weekend. Probably the most powerful anti-state movie I have ever seen. Conservatives will be able to see past aspects of the movie and see the underlying lessons ("People shouldn’t fear their government. Governments should fear their people."). It has nothing to do with the 'left' or the 'right'. Yes the 'right' is attacked in this movie but the underlying idea is that no party for any reason should have this level of control. Safety is valued more than freedom. Party faithful OTOH will never see the movie and yet complain about it endlessly
55 posted on 03/20/2006 6:18:26 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: goldstategop
For all of its pretensions this movie sounds like another Hollywood mad-slasher in a mask movie. Stand aside Jason a new cold blooded killer is in town.
56 posted on 03/20/2006 6:43:02 AM PST by redheadtoo
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To: billbears
Saw it this weekend. Probably the most powerful anti-state movie I have ever seen. Conservatives will be able to see past aspects of the movie and see the underlying lessons ("People shouldn’t fear their government. Governments should fear their people.").

I haven't seen this yet, but I tend to agree with you.

Just because we happen to have a Republican president at the moment, we interpret the "People shouldn’t fear their government. Governments should fear their people." theme as being anti-Bush. But if this same movie was released during the Clinton years, we would all be cheering.

If that's the true theme, then we should be cheering.

57 posted on 03/20/2006 7:07:02 AM PST by pjd
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To: goldstategop

I liked the movie, especially the part where "Dear Leader" gets whacked.


58 posted on 03/20/2006 7:14:52 AM PST by dljordan
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To: MadIvan

Actually I did some reading on that and Alan's disagreement has nothing to do with the final product. Apparently he decided shortly after the rights were sold that Hollywood is just stupid so he didn't want to have anything to do with the movie, wasn't going to discuss ideas with them, wasn't going to be on set, wasn't going to watch it, they could do whatever they want just don't bother him. Then during some interview one of the Wackowskis made the comment that they had Alan's full support, that's when he got mad and demanded they remove his name, he was OK with them ruining his stuff (which he apparently assumed was bound to happen) the problem was when they implied he was involved with the production when he had refused to even have coffee and chat with anyone involved.

The movie is actually pretty good. Like most hard left moonbat stuff it's preaching to the choir, so if you're not in the choir the anti-Bush parts are pretty ignorable. Makes a lot more sense the first time through than the graphic novel did, they dropped all the stuff that indicated maybe V was just nuts and the stuff that set him off might not have actually happened at all.


59 posted on 03/20/2006 7:17:27 AM PST by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: NRA1995
I saw all three LOTR movies in the theater without being subjected to rude people and cell phones. If they are re-released for theatrical viewing, by all means go....even if you have to complain to the usher about someone's cell phone, it's highly worthwhile, compared to TV viewing

Appreciate the info- thank you.

60 posted on 03/20/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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