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Doubts cast on superstar woodpecker's return
newscientist ^ | 13 March 2006 | Bob Holmes

Posted on 03/13/2006 11:13:06 AM PST by S0122017

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After bigfoot, Loch Ness monsters and sneaky dinosaurs we can now proudly add the ivory-billed woodpecker to the cryptozoology-list.
1 posted on 03/13/2006 11:13:11 AM PST by S0122017
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The ivory-billed woodpecker – an American icon among birds (Image: John A Ruthven)
2 posted on 03/13/2006 11:15:49 AM PST by S0122017
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To: pcottraux; GreenFreeper

PING


3 posted on 03/13/2006 11:16:19 AM PST by S0122017
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Although I truly believe the sighting was legit, I also understand that the lack of a viable breeding population likely dooms the bird in any case.

I have viewed the bird that they claim was mistaken for this one, and that video was not of that woodpecker. It had to be a Ivory. No other bird has that much white.

The only thing they have in common are size and shape.

4 posted on 03/13/2006 11:21:06 AM PST by Cold Heat
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I saw a pilliated woodpecker outside in my back yard.
damn thing was huge and looked like Woody Woodpecker.


5 posted on 03/13/2006 11:38:29 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: S0122017

Never mind.


6 posted on 03/13/2006 11:40:19 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Cold Heat

That was so obviously the biggest pile of BS outside of a feedlot that has come down the pike in many many years. I seriously doubt it was a case of mistaken identity, they got what they wanted, lots of money.
As for a breeding population, if there was one bird it had to come from parents, and none have been seen in far too many eyars to legitimize this. It was a grab for money and power. I don't know if they finally prevented the dam they were trying to eliminate to cut out the farmers.


7 posted on 03/13/2006 11:44:10 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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So you're theory is that they spraypainted a woodpecker
just to get the funds and then couldn't make any better recordings then one short fragment? Most things biologists do is NOT for money..if we wanted that we would have become laywers.


8 posted on 03/13/2006 11:48:28 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017; Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; new cruelty; ...
Don't forget rat squirrels.

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The video is really not good evidence. Clearly the bird is very large and may be a woodpecker, but it's just too blurry to really tell.

9 posted on 03/13/2006 11:52:14 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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I prefer the early, borderline psychotic woodpecker from the early forties to the subsequent kinder gentler varieties.

10 posted on 03/13/2006 11:56:59 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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Read the article again, it is by scientists. There simply was not enough of a picture to tell anything.


11 posted on 03/13/2006 11:58:33 AM PST by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: S0122017

Not all lawyers are rich.


12 posted on 03/13/2006 11:59:42 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: midwyf

It can't be certain, but to claim it must be about money goes to far. Ít is not right to presume that everyone is out to get money and is willing to fake stuff for it whole day long.


13 posted on 03/13/2006 12:00:54 PM PST by S0122017
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I have to agree. I mean, they have video of bigfoot too. But it's not like everyone in the world said "Bigfoot must be real. I saw the video. That's enough for me!"

But, with the woodpecker, that's really what people said. A few seconds of blurry video and we have a proven scientific fact. Sheesh!

14 posted on 03/13/2006 12:00:58 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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The woodpecker was alive just a sort while ago, that makes it more convincing. Plesiosaurs are a bit longer gone..
also, plesiosaurs are really difficult to hide.
A few woodpeckers can hide, i mean they're birds in a very large forest.


15 posted on 03/13/2006 12:04:11 PM PST by S0122017
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Elvis was alive more recently than the woodpecker. But if I saw a few seconds of video featuring The King next to Brad Pitt, I would not be convinced that he was in the building.


16 posted on 03/13/2006 12:16:13 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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Elvis was alive more recently than the woodpecker. But if I saw a few seconds of video featuring The King next to Brad Pitt, I would not be convinced that he was in the building.

Ok touche.
17 posted on 03/13/2006 12:23:27 PM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017; blam; Carry_Okie; Chanticleer; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

It's all a fraud.... :)

18 posted on 03/13/2006 1:02:58 PM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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" It's all a fraud.... :)"
Yep.
19 posted on 03/13/2006 1:37:51 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol0/issue2005/images/data/1114103/DC1/1114103S1.mov


20 posted on 03/13/2006 1:40:57 PM PST by S0122017
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