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FReeper Canteen ~ Tech Tuesday: Email Tax ~ Would you pay for email guarantees? ~ 07 March 2006
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Posted on 03/06/2006 5:36:12 PM PST by MoJo2001


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Technology Tuesday
 
GummyIII will return next week (if possible), but she's busy saving the world from a chocolate shortage! It's an important job we wouldn't trust to just anyone. Definitely not something for MoJo.

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Since many of our Troops use AOL, we wanted to know what you thought about AOL's plans for folks to pay for GoodMail. Is it something worth fretting over, a new enterprising an idea, or another way for which companies can milk money out of consumers already using free email services?


 

What's This About?
In February 2006, AOL announced that it would accept payment for incoming emails. For these certified emails, it would skip its usual anti-spam filters and guarantee delivery for cash. Our coalition believes that the free passage of email between Internet users is a vital part of what makes the Internet work. When ISPs demand a cut of "pay-to-send" email, they're raising tollbooths on the open Net, interfering with the passage of data by demanding protection money at the gates of their customers' computers.
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What's this controversy all about?

AOL has proposed the adoption of a system called CertifiedEmail, provided by Goodmail Systems. Under this pay-to-send system, affluent mass-emailers who are willing to pay AOL the equivalent of an "email tax" would get to bypass AOL's spam filters and get guaranteed delivery to the inboxes of AOL customers.

Everyone who can't afford to pay AOL's "email tax" - including charities, small businesses, civic organizations, and even families with mailing lists - will have no guarantee that their emails will be delivered. If other companies follow AOL in adopting pay-to-send systems, the Internet will become permanently divided into two classes of users - those who can afford to pay for guaranteed delivery and everyone else left behind with unreliable service.

Though billed in the media as an anti-spam and anti-phishing measure, AOL's pay-to-send system will fail on both scores.

AOL's "email tax" will cause great harm to the free and open Internet that many of us take for granted. The Internet is a revolutionary force for free speech, civic organizing, and economic innovation specifically because it is open and accessible to all Internet users. With a free and open Internet, small ideas can become big ideas overnight. AOL's move to introduce a pay-to-send system is a danger to this openness, and we urge them to reconsider.

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Which brings us to the next question: Is this something to get hyper over? Or is it a real concern? Would you pay for the service?

 

What say you?


 

 

Disclaimer:
Do you ever wonder why companies always put disclaimers at the bottom of their pages? And then they expect you to read the *fine print* as well? Well, this is done for a reason. It allows them to make up a bunch of unecessary rules and BS that no one will read nor thinks about reading. As a matter of fact, the disclaimers are really *Dating Ads* that those anonymous computer geeks put out to the general public. It's a way to get them a date via their disclaimers. It's risk free and also a sure way to ensure that their name will appear in the ad somewhere. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then you totally understand the ideas about disclaimers. They're useless for the most part.

 

 


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KEYWORDS: aol; computers; email; military; technology; troopssupport
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From the men in the Military and the Canteen


41 posted on 03/06/2006 6:40:34 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: All
To every service man or woman reading this thread.
Thank You for your service to our country.
No matter where you are stationed,
No matter what your job description
Know that we are are proud of each and everyone of you.


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The FR Canteen is Free Republics longest running daily thread specifically designed
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The doors have been open since Oct 7 2001,
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We are indebted to you for your sacrifices for our Freedom.


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42 posted on 03/06/2006 6:42:04 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: laurenmarlowe

lauren!!!!! ((HUGS)) Thanks for America the Beautiful.


43 posted on 03/06/2006 6:43:11 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter and Passover ~)
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To: MoJo2001
...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!...........FIRST!!!!
44 posted on 03/06/2006 6:46:18 PM PST by tomkow6 (Canteen CooCoo Consultant, and CookingWithLARD.com person Lard greases the way for tomorrow)
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To: MoJo2001
I guess I must have missed why someone would need to use one of those "free" services to begin with. I guess if you are using public access computers to send and receive e-mail that would necessitate having an account with somebody. I am not independently wealthy but I pay for my private use of my local ISP and the Addy's it gives me so really don't understand why someone would be opposed to paying for what they are using.

I'm not changing a stance here, just thinking this through on your time;^)

And thanks for the music links!

45 posted on 03/06/2006 6:49:35 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river)
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To: All

A PRAYER OF PROTECTION
The light of God surround you
The love of God enfold you
The power of God protect you
The presence of God watch over you
Wherever you are, God is,
And all is well.
Amen.

BLESS THIS HOUSE
 Bless this house O Lord we pray; Make it safe by night and day; 
Bless these walls so firm and stout, Keeping want and trouble out:
Bless the roof and chimneys tall, Let thy peace lie over all;
Bless this door, that it may prove ever open to joy and love.
Bless these windows shining bright, Letting in God's heav'nly light;
Bless the hearth a'blazing there, with smoke ascending like a prayer;
Bless the folk who dwell within, keep them pure and free from sin;
Bless us all that we may be Fit O Lord to dwell with thee;
Bless us all that one day we May dwell O Lord with thee. 
(Click on graphics for music)



46 posted on 03/06/2006 6:50:54 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter and Passover ~)
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To: MoJo2001

No, I would not pay to have my e-mail delivered. Why would I?

The Internet has done a better job of delivering my mail than the USPS has ever done, and look what we pay for snail mail!

As for Spammers - well, they're going to find loopholes no matter what. I'm just going to keep looking for better blockers, that's all!


47 posted on 03/06/2006 7:03:55 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: MoJo2001

March 7, 2006

Dirty Hands

Read:
Romans 2:12-16

Gentiles, . . . although not having the law, are a law to themselves, . . . their conscience also bearing witness. —Romans 2:14-15

Bible In One Year: Deuteronomy 3-4; Mark 10:32-52

coverOne of William Shakespeare's most intriguing characters is Lady Macbeth. Having heard a prophecy that her husband would become king, she convinced him to assassinate the reigning monarch. When the bloody deed was done, Macbeth was conscience-stricken. His wife rebuked his squeamishness and helped him cover up the crime. Her husband was crowned king. But that wasn't the end.

Lady Macbeth's initial resolve turned to remorse. She grew mentally unstable, and couldn't stop washing her hands. "Will these hands ne'er be clean?" she asked. Finally, the guilt drove Lady Macbeth to suicide.

Guilt is an emotion that can weigh us down whenever we cross a moral boundary. All of us are capable of feeling guilty when we violate the law of God written in our hearts (Romans 2:14-15). If we continue to sin willfully, however, we will dull our conscience.

Lady Macbeth is a good reminder of a biblical principle: Whatever we sow, we will certainly reap (Galatians 6:7-8). When we feel temptation, we need to listen to our conscience—not try to silence it. It's far better to avoid committing an act we will later regret than to live with the consequences. —Dennis Fisher

Sometimes there's just one step to go
Before we yield to sin,
But God will help us to say no
If we trust His power within. —Hess

Only Jesus' blood can wash away the stain of sin.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
The Forgiveness Of God

48 posted on 03/06/2006 7:19:41 PM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://howifixthings.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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To: MoJo2001; All
Good morning Troops, Veterans and Canteeners.

* * * * * * * * * * * *

Our Flag Flying Proudly One Nation Under God

* * * * * * * * * * * *

Lord, Please Bless Our Troops, they're fighting for our Freedom.

I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic, for which it stands;
one nation UNDER GOD,
indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.

Prayers going up.


49 posted on 03/06/2006 7:25:40 PM PST by HopeandGlory (Hey, Liberals . . . PC died on 9/11 . . . GET USED TO IT!!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma; MoJo2001

50 posted on 03/06/2006 7:33:34 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter and Passover ~)
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To: MoJo2001

Who broke the Canteen?


51 posted on 03/06/2006 7:34:21 PM PST by EsmeraldaA
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To: MoJo2001

Wait-a-minit, did I read this wrong?

AOL is going to facilitate commercial e-mail blasting by accepting a fee to bypass SPAM blockers?

Sorry, that's just plain wrong.


52 posted on 03/06/2006 7:35:04 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: laurenmarlowe

Thanks, lauren, for the pictures of our troops doing what they do.


53 posted on 03/06/2006 7:35:49 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter and Passover ~)
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Lookit you stumbling in to grab the first 50!

Woo-Hoo!!


54 posted on 03/06/2006 7:36:16 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: EsmeraldaA; MoJo2001
I'm reasonably sure MoJo broke the Canteen.
55 posted on 03/06/2006 7:36:40 PM PST by tomkow6 (Canteen CooCoo Consultant, and CookingWithLARD.com person Lard greases the way for tomorrow)
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To: Kathy in Alaska

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 03/06/2006 7:38:46 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: EsmeraldaA
Who broke the Canteen?

Not me. I am innocent of all charges, trumped up or not.

57 posted on 03/06/2006 7:39:33 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: HiJinx

Not just anyone's spam blockers..THEIR OWN! Hello? LOL!
How long until other companies provide the same paid service? If I received an email from an AOL user that is paying for this, did they get around my spam blocker? I'd be ticked.


58 posted on 03/06/2006 7:40:12 PM PST by MoJo2001 (www.proudpatriots.org (Support Our Troops)...)
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To: EsmeraldaA; tomkow6

Hi sweetie,
It was tomkow!


59 posted on 03/06/2006 7:40:50 PM PST by MoJo2001 (www.proudpatriots.org (Support Our Troops)...)
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To: MoJo2001

Ticked? Betrayed...and that's not a good place to be...well, at least not for the one who betrayed you.

I wouldn't want to be in AOL's shoes when their users start fleeing for other ISPs.


60 posted on 03/06/2006 7:42:24 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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