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1 posted on 03/06/2006 10:43:44 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Ruh Roh.
The Kool-Aid has just become bitter-sweet ;)


2 posted on 03/06/2006 10:50:34 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Senator Bedfellow

I was thinking of switching to Mac. However if it's that easy to attack, I'll stay with a secure Windows machine.


3 posted on 03/06/2006 10:52:13 AM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Macs are not invulnerable, but 20-to-30 minutes is an eternity in the world of hackers, and the typical Mac user is in a much safer environment than a Windows user.

A Windows worm or virus can spread it's plague to hundreds of other Windows computers in just a few seconds. So far, Macs have not experienced that problem.

4 posted on 03/06/2006 10:53:09 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Looking at the hacker contest link - http://rm-my-mac.wideopenbsd.org/ - it turns out that the machine's software was heavily modified, and much of Apple's standard software was replaced with non-standard versions (e.g. the Apache web server), and LDAP was wide open to allow anyone to add an account to the machine. So this test was totally bogus for purposes of evaluating security for the average Mac user.


6 posted on 03/06/2006 11:00:13 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Swordmaker

ping


14 posted on 03/06/2006 11:20:26 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Senator Bedfellow
"Mac OS X is easy pickings for bug finders. That said, it doesn't have the market share to really interest most serious bug finders," added gwerdna.

How fallen are the mighty.

I'm laughing so hard, tears are streaming down my face.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Schadenfreud bumpski!

16 posted on 03/06/2006 11:27:05 AM PST by Noumenon (Yesterday's Communist sympathizers are today's terrorist sympathizers)
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The article said -- ""It probably took about 20 or 30 minutes to get root on the box. Initially I tried looking around the box for certain mis-configurations and other obvious things but then I decided to use some unpublished exploits -- of which there are a lot for Mac OS X," gwerdna told ZDNet Australia ."

I've had a Mac with the latest operating system running for months and months (years, actually) without any problems -- being online continuously with a high-speed Internet connection. That's the model I have at home. And then, I have a laptop model that I take out and use with all sorts of *other* Internet connections (all sorts of WiFi connections). And I use them both extensively.

I've noticed through the logs on the computer that I've got many different people hammering away at both machines, trying to break in. I see it all logged -- but no one can get in. I have the machines set up so I can access them both remotely, myself -- but no one else can.

So, they're both accessible by me -- but not others. And even with all the hammering away by all those others (from all over the place, from China to Korea, to Russia to you-name-it) -- there's no problem at all with me keeping the machines secure.

And no worries about any virus at all. The last time I saw any kind of virus for the Mac was back in 1990. I've had Macs since 1986 -- and have used floppy disks, transferred information in and out of them, used e-mail and have had all sorts of "outside connections" with all these Mac. And with *all* the Macs that I've ever had -- in all those years I've had *only 1 virus*. That's it -- just one virus. And that one was wiped off pretty quickly with a run-through of the virus program I had back then (which was Virex).

It's a totally secure machine, great operating system, no one can break into it and I don't get viruses or trojan horses or worms -- even with receiving lots of e-mail, downloading lots of things and using it on lots of web sites and transferring a lot of information back and forth.

It's just great and rock-solid.

Regards,
Star Traveler


23 posted on 03/06/2006 2:47:46 PM PST by Star Traveler
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The article said -- "Gwerdna concluded that OS X contains "easy pickings" when it comes to vulnerabilities that could allow hackers to break into Apple's operating system."

Well, that wasn't a "test". You might as well give a stranger the keys to your car and then be "amazed" that your car was stolen. Of course, if it were a "Mac" car, then there would be articles about how the security of the car was so bad that someone was able to steal it so easily. Yeah... riiiiggghhhttt!

Take a look at a more realistic test --

http://test.doit.wisc.edu/

24 posted on 03/06/2006 3:41:04 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
It's FUD Season... Mac Hacked in under 30 minutes - Thread 2 - PING!

Of course the key here is "LOCAL ACCESS" ...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.


30 posted on 03/06/2006 6:48:41 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow; SJSAMPLE

before any mac-bashers decide to drink a bit of their own kool-aid, I suggest a little background on this supposed security breach be investigated.

Check this out before you pass judgement.....shines a little light on the misleading story posted here....

http://test.doit.wisc.edu/


33 posted on 03/06/2006 7:02:56 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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