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Stegosaur in Cambodia?
cryptomundo.com ^ | 2-5-06

Posted on 03/05/2006 10:37:06 AM PST by pcottraux

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1 posted on 03/05/2006 10:37:07 AM PST by pcottraux
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2 posted on 03/05/2006 10:37:34 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

Wouldn't be the first hoax in palentology.


3 posted on 03/05/2006 10:40:11 AM PST by js1138 (</I>)
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To: pcottraux

I'd like to be added to the ping list, please. I love this stuff!


4 posted on 03/05/2006 10:50:10 AM PST by Rightwing Canuck
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To: js1138

Nope. Sure wouldn't.


5 posted on 03/05/2006 10:50:45 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Rightwing Canuck

You're on.


6 posted on 03/05/2006 10:51:29 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

I didn't think that Stegos ranged in SE Asia back in the day. Really weird.


7 posted on 03/05/2006 10:51:56 AM PST by SandfleaCSC (Tagline has been appropriated by county council for a much more profitable one)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Crossover Ping.

Take a look at this.


8 posted on 03/05/2006 10:52:53 AM PST by SandfleaCSC (Tagline has been appropriated by county council for a much more profitable one)
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To: SandfleaCSC

I believe that Man & Dinosaurs DID exist together at one time (most likely before the Great FLood in Noah's time).


9 posted on 03/05/2006 10:54:06 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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I don't. I believe the dinosaurs and most large predators decline gave rise to hominids a little over a million years ago. Geology and Genesis are irreconcilable.


10 posted on 03/05/2006 11:01:30 AM PST by SandfleaCSC (Tagline has been appropriated by county council for a much more profitable one)
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To: ExcursionGuy84; SandfleaCSC

That creature in the carving may be a razorback boar, but the possibility of something else certainly is enticing.

I've also heard that in the ruins of ancient Babylon, statues and stone carvings have been found of dinosaur/sauropod like creatures with long necks and other features.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 11:02:30 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: SandfleaCSC
Geology and Genesis are irreconcilable.

Not necessarily. People often make attempts to pinpoint specific time periods in the Bible, but the book of Genesis is really not too specific in its time periods. Other than the spans of generations, of course. It tells how long people of many generations lived, but that's about it.

I think it's entirely possible that dinosaurs lived before man and became extinct before God created man. The Bible isn't specifically clear on issues like that, because the scriptures are not about animals; the book is essentially about the rocky relationships between God and man. It is mostly not concerned with animals.
12 posted on 03/05/2006 11:06:51 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

"What are we to make of the carving of a Stegosaur (Stegosaur stenops) on an ancient Cambodian temple at Angkor Wat?"

What if it's really nothing?

As was suggested in the article,
"Did the prop crew of the Laura Croft movie pull off a prank, and restore the temple, placing onto this wall a dinosaur facade?" It also suggests this is a newer panel.

Maybe, it was:

* a band of alcolytes making fun of the dean of the temple.
Perhaps they were gathered together giggling as Ly "Stinky" Meang drew it on a dare, and it is their way of saying "The dean is a big, fat monster."

* an ancient Khmer soldier leaving the equivalent of "Kilroy was here" on the temple wall.

* maybe this was a Cambodian equivalent of a comic book (I refuse to call it a graphic novel," and the children of the area gathered together every day to see the installment of the adventures of Big Animal Man.

* perhaps an ancient Cambodian science fiction novel-of-the-month.

* maybe the work of a Cambodian artist who really needed glasses to draw an elephant.

* perhaps the wine-tasting for the opening of the new temple art gallery was proceded by a LOT of wine tasting by the artists.

* maybe it was a gang of artists who wanted to found a new kind of animated art who discovered it was WAY too much trouble and only drew the first equivalent of a Cambodian cel.

* maybe it's an elephant drawn by a bitter Cambodia Democrat who lost ANOTHER election.

One the other hand, there are those who believe the earth is relatively young and this really represents a steosaur-like animal.


13 posted on 03/05/2006 11:12:27 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: pcottraux
I would vote --- Hoax.

1. There are not any record in this period either here or in adjacent areas for such a creature.

2. Extensive Khmer murals elsewhere have no such representations.

3. The creature would have had to live in the upland areas as the valley areas where heavily farmed. There are records of wild cattle, rhinos, tigers, elephants, exotic animals imported for royal amusement, etc.

4. These temples were not isolated in the jungle in their day and have been heavily looted in the past 100 years. Where are the bones?

5. Is it just coincidence that fossil dino discoveries have generated excitement in the Isan districts of Thailand?

6. It looks too "new" to fit the adjacent panels of carvings.

14 posted on 03/05/2006 11:15:20 AM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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Yeah, those are excellent points. I think it may be slightly possible, but as you point out, it is VERY highly improbable.


15 posted on 03/05/2006 11:24:48 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

I think this looks a bit too hoaxy for me.

However, the American Southwest petroglyphs are very compelling.


16 posted on 03/05/2006 1:13:31 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Yeah, the general feeling I'm getting is that this seems to be a faker.

Nevertheless, I'm all for examining any new thing that comes up, even the stuff that is clearly not real (how else to determine hoaxes from non-hoaxes?). Hopefully that's what I'm getting at with my crypto ping list.


17 posted on 03/05/2006 1:19:27 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: SandfleaCSC

I don't accept the OT stories legimately. I believe that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, and that most dinosaurs were extinct 70mm years ago. That being said, the paleontological record proves nothing. It can only tell us about animals that were preserved. A good analogy comes from archeology. For a long time, people believed that pottery was the major articistic expression of ancient Greece. Why? Beacause the vases and amphoras were the most common artifacts found. It took a long time for science to realize that these objects were to most likely to be preserved and ignored by future discovery. Paintings rotted. Buildings collapsed, and metals and marble were recycled. My point is that just because the bones of a creature were never discovered, it does not follow that that creature DEFINITELY did not exist.

BTW, on reading this back, I should note that I am merely making a point, not arguing with you directly.


18 posted on 03/05/2006 2:39:18 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: SandfleaCSC

The comments on the page (I think that photo of the man is of Don Patten, but wouldn't swear to it) suggest a known but extinct rhino; to me it looks like a very stylized whatzit, perhaps a wild boar, otherwise a fantasy animal (or a rhino). :')


19 posted on 03/05/2006 9:59:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: pcottraux

HI!

1) It is not lighter grey that is only the lighting, checl out the second pic and you can see that the darker grey areas on the first pic are just as light.
2) It really doesnt look like a newer panel.

However, It could have been partly remade, so an existing image could have been altered, and made to look old afterwards.

More likely is that this is an authentic image of a rhinoceros or other animal. Keep in mind that no skeleton has been found of a stegosaur that is only thousands of years old.


20 posted on 03/06/2006 3:22:52 AM PST by S0122017
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