Posted on 02/11/2006 1:42:41 PM PST by Dr. Marten
Well I am sure China is a perfect place for you. I on the other hand enjoy my freedom. No internet censorship (shame on Google and Yahoo for kowtowing to China's demands on that issue with their services in China) or secret police or anything like that.
BTW, no need to point out my errors in the comment above. That's what happens when you format and edit in an HTML editor and copy it to another window.
Careless mistakes.
If you had cared to take the time to look at the links on my profile page, you would have noted that the majority of them are related to the negative issues concerning China. Likewise with the articles posted to my blogsite.
Apparently you replied in "knee jerk" fashion to my post 17 without reading from post 18 where I had *read* from your blogsite, and commented on it. So it makes no sense for you to castigate someone for pointing out problems in China when you do the same thing yourself.
More assumptions and once again you are wrong. I am a student and my business in China is directly related to my studies which have consisted of Chinese History and it's foreign policy.
Yes, that's right, they were assumptions--which I clearly noted by the use of the words "I take it..." to begin that paragraph. Your livelihood *is* dependent upon your schooling. And as your weblog and other postings on Free Republic have reported, China often takes a dim view of those who paint it in an unflattering light.
Care to open your mouth a little further so that you can get the other foot in?
Didn't do that this time...but there are plenty of other examples of where I've done that very thing. :-)
Was that supposed to be another lame attempt at a comeback of sorts? There's really no point in continuing this "conversation" if all you know about China is that which you have learned from reading on FR.
That statement is inconsistent with the fact that YOU chose to post information about China on FR...unless you mean that FR desperately needs pro-China apologists, and you are nobly and heroically stepping into that role.
Not even close. I've come to expect such knee-jerk comments from those who have no first-hand knowledge about that which they are trying to discuss.
If first-hand knowledge were necessary for accuracy, no one would be able to accept ANYTHING except on the basis of eyewitness reports. And of course, many propagandists like to brag about their "first hand knowledge" and how it makes them superior. Like all the "embedded reporters" in Iraq, or the "live reports" from Hurricane Katrina.
If you want to claim that your travel to China makes you *superior* you can, but you will be wrong. Since China is (as even your weblog has pointed out) under what amounts to governmental censorship, the odds that one individual will be able to find out "the real story"TM are not great. I'm glad you wrote about the crooked smile the old man next to you gave when he had crapped his depends. But that is merely a personal anecdote with no direct applicability to my life, except possibly for humor--or unless I want to purchase stock in the Chinese version of Depends. Relying on a network of sources (such as are posted to Free Republic) is more likely to give valid geopolitical information; which is what I'm looking for on Free Republic in the first place.
Cheers!
Vernacular...
I was responding to the fact that rather than viewing the video with an open mind to look at the issues it brought up facing America, you simply responded with a knee-jerk comment that resembled that of a school-yard retort.
Worse than that. I felt that the video itself was a childish retort, given the political system in China, the large number of underfed peasants, forced abortions, etc.
I haven't lived there but I have worked with Chinese citizens and ex-citizens at the PhD level who left me under no illusions about the "glorious path" China was on.
Aside from that, I was also taking issue with your assumption that I knew nothing about China or the issues facing it.
The way the discussion was going it looked like the issues in China were being glossed over. If I had read your weblog, I'd have modified my conclusions somewhat. Normally I check signup dates and links on homepages before anything like flaming, but all I saw was a list of other Freeper names, and in Indiana flag.
Also, I should point out that China's environmental problems mirror that of what we faced here in the US during the industrialization period and had America's industrialization taken place in modern day as China's is, our environment would probably be in the same sad state.
In some ways you are right, the Ludlow, CO massacre comes to mind, as does the near extinction of the buffalo and the extinction of the passenger pigeon.
But I have read translations of various Chinese govt. officials which sounded suspciously like the Nazi lebensraum with regard to the US, and advocating biological warfare to open up the Americas to Chinese immigration, and to allow access to our natural resources -- "in America they have lakes you can drink from, and trees on both sides of the roads." That kind of thing.
That's a far cry either from fifty-four forty or fight! or from the US's subsequent behaviour.
And I see no evidence of political liberalization in China (witness Google and Yahoo) of the sort which would soften upcoming population and environmental disasters.
Cheers!
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