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IS CHARLES LOGAN A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN? (From the TV show 24 (vanity)
washingtonmonthly ^ | Kevin Drum

Posted on 02/02/2006 1:35:43 PM PST by crushelits

IS CHARLES LOGAN A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN?....A few days ago a reader threatened to report me to Glenn Reynolds unless I cleared up an important issue that I brought up last Sunday: Is Charles Logan a Republican?

Logan, of course, is the hapless president of the United States currently on offer from the producers of 24. As we all know, he was formerly vice president Charles Logan until the untimely destruction of Air Force One in Season 4, so the question of his party affiliation boils down to this: Was John Keeler a Republican?

The basic argument goes like this. The president during Seasons 1-3 was David Palmer, and we know for a fact that Palmer was a Democrat. In Season 3, Palmer is running for reelection and part of the plot involves a debate against his opponent, John Keeler. Later in the show, for reasons that need not detain us, Palmer pulls out of the race and Keeler wins the presidency. Occam's Razor suggests that if Palmer is a Democrat, and Keeler was running against him, then Keeler — and Logan — are Republicans.

Unless — it was a primary debate. Perhaps, as in 1980, a prominent Democrat decided to challenge a sitting president. After all, would Palmer really pull out of a race against a Republican opponent? Doesn't it make more sense that he'd do that against a fellow Democrat?

On the other hand, no sitting president would deign to debate a primary opponent. And in Season 4 there's a reference from the daughter of Keeler's Secretary of Defense to a Heritage Foundation meeting, clearly a Republican hangout.

But then there's Mike Novick. If Palmer was a Democrat and Logan is a Republican, how did Novick manage to worm his way into both men's staffs? And what's with Palmer's suggestion that he had been "frozen out" of the Logan administration? That doesn't even make sense unless Logan is a Democrat and Palmer expected to retain a bit of influence with him.

Perhaps a bit of Googling could clear this up, but I figured I'd throw it out for comments instead. I think it's pretty clear that Logan is a Republican, but perhaps there's further evidence on this score that I've missed due to my lazy TV-watching habits. What say you?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_01/008107.php


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; democrat; foxtv; hollywood; ischarleslogan; republican
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1 posted on 02/02/2006 1:35:47 PM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Republican.


2 posted on 02/02/2006 1:36:08 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: crushelits

Gotta be a dim!! I don't think I've seen a stupider wuss since Jimmuh.


3 posted on 02/02/2006 1:37:08 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: crushelits

I think He's supposed to represent McCain honestly. 24 promotes a very conservative message (well what the Conservatives have adopted really) the message that Torture to get important info is neccessary.
McCain doesnt believe this, nor does Charles Logan. He's defintley a RINO imho.


4 posted on 02/02/2006 1:37:42 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: crushelits
Its a TV show so who cares!
5 posted on 02/02/2006 1:38:06 PM PST by Sthitch
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To: Sonny M

I was thinking today when Rush talking about 24 what interesting conversations Keifer and his leftist dad must have since Keifer is friends with Rush and I assume a conservative! Donald Sutherland is such a dingbat!


6 posted on 02/02/2006 1:38:23 PM PST by LYSandra
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To: crushelits

Can there be any question that Logan is supposed to be a Nixon look-alike?


7 posted on 02/02/2006 1:38:26 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Sthitch

VANITY...

Vanity cares...


8 posted on 02/02/2006 1:40:10 PM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

I'm going with Dimocrat. Novick is the key.


9 posted on 02/02/2006 1:40:33 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it; Right is right even if no one does it.)
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To: crushelits
Who are you working for?
10 posted on 02/02/2006 1:40:36 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: LYSandra

Donald portrayed an evil Conniving Republican on Commander in Cheif aka Hillary TV

(The Show that used to be on but now ABC has cancelled mwahahahah)


11 posted on 02/02/2006 1:41:09 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: Rummyfan

Who do you think?


12 posted on 02/02/2006 1:41:14 PM PST by crushelits
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To: LYSandra

I'm not too sure about that, I thought I had heard Keifer saying some pretty stupid things last election, but maybe that was his father.


13 posted on 02/02/2006 1:41:23 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: crushelits

He's a Republican. Palmer was a Democrat.


14 posted on 02/02/2006 1:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: RockinRight
Think FOX.

and your answer is right there...

15 posted on 02/02/2006 1:44:01 PM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Hmmm. Doesn't help. One of them said something on H and C?


16 posted on 02/02/2006 1:45:06 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: LYSandra
Keifer does interviews and from the stuff he says, I don't think he is a conservative.

Contrare to popular belief, Limbaugh does have friends who aren't conservative (his girlfriend works for CNN).

That said, one of the writers on the show has identified himself as a hard right winger, (this was during some kind of controversey).

But either way, the character on the show that Logan plays, is a republican without stating as such.

FWIW, and from what all my friends think, they think characters are modeled after real life folks, but from different parties (they think Palmer is modeled after Bush, Logan modeled after Clinton, etc).

I think its just a TV show, and there isn't any message, its just entertainment and the charcters aren't modeled after anyone.

Though one guy told me they have a Karl Rove type character now.

18 posted on 02/02/2006 1:47:53 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: LYSandra

And has been since the Vietnam era when he went on F-T-A (F..The Army) tours along side Jane Fonda (pre-Hanoi).


19 posted on 02/02/2006 1:48:49 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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To: Sonny M

Well they did add a "permit some terrorism to open the door for a war for oil" subplot this semester (and stated it roughly that way).


20 posted on 02/02/2006 1:50:20 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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