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To: JeffAtlanta
Could shed some light on this situation yesterday? The Colts had the ball on the Steelers' 1 yard line and was flagged for for false start or illegal procedure penalty which backed them up to the 6 yard line. Then on the next play, the Steelers were flagged for offside but the ball was only moved up the the 3 yard line instead of back to the 1.

This is an easy one. Penalties assessed inside the 20 in the direction of the goal line are not assessed at face value, but are instead assessed at "half the distance to the goal."

So when the Colts, on offense at the 1 got a false start, they were penalized 5 yards to the 6. When the Steelers reciprocated, because they were inside the 20, they went half way to the goal, from the 6 to the 3.

(As usual, there may be other subtleties and exceptions to the rule, but that is the basic rule.)

SD

218 posted on 01/16/2006 10:47:46 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
This is an easy one. Penalties assessed inside the 20 in the direction of the goal line are not assessed at face value, but are instead assessed at "half the distance to the goal."

Really? That is something that I guess I just missed even after years of football. I always thought the half the distance rule was for situations where the full value of the penalty would take the ball into the endzone.

For example, I thought 5 yard penalty on the 15 would take the ball to the 10 while a 5 yard penalty on the 4 would take the ball to the 2.

You learn something everyday.

219 posted on 01/16/2006 10:57:19 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: SoothingDave
(As usual, there may be other subtleties and exceptions to the rule, but that is the basic rule.)

This may qualify...

When do penalties switch from five-, 10- and 15-yard varieties to half the distance from the goal line? If the offense was already on their goal line, would penalties have no real effect on their distance to first down? --Hank Jones, Joliet

If a distance penalty, enforced from a specific spot between the goal lines would place the ball more than half the distance to the offender's goal line, the penalty is half the distance from that spot to the goal line. This general rule supercedes any other general or specific rule with regard to enforcement of penalties. An exception would be intentional grounding, which is penalized at the spot of the foul if that spot is more than 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

220 posted on 01/16/2006 11:02:05 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: SoothingDave
Penalties assessed inside the 20 in the direction of the goal line are not assessed at face value, but are instead assessed at "half the distance to the goal."

There's always been an element of unfairness to this rule. If the ball is on the two yard line, then any penalty against the defense is basically a one-yard penalty (and automatic first down, in many cases), while a penalty against the offense is fully enforced and marked off accordingly. This means that on a first-down play, a 5-yard offensive procedural penalty becomes a "worse" violation than a flagrant personal foul against the defense.

221 posted on 01/16/2006 11:02:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: SoothingDave

Not necessarily inside the 20, but less than twice the distance of the penalty from the goal line, so inside the 10 on 5 yard penalties (like offsides), inside the 20 on 10 yarders, and inside the 30 on 15 yarders (like the personal foul Troy took in Cinci, the penalty was assessed at like the 25, so they went half the distance).


236 posted on 01/16/2006 11:48:29 AM PST by discostu (a time when families gather together, don't talk, and watch football... good times)
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