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Beating that queasiness: Straight, liberal and gun-shy about 'Brokeback'
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/15/06 | Dru Sefton

Posted on 01/15/2006 11:00:14 AM PST by TFFKAMM

It's true, the movie "Brokeback Mountain" does provoke what one researcher calls "a very strong ick factor" in some straight men.

What is it in this story of two cowboy pals in 1960s Wyoming who find themselves in lifelong love -- yet go on to marry women -- that elicits this response from heterosexual males?

The answers are as complex as the plot.

A psychologist who coined the word "homophobic" said the revulsion is precisely that. A scientist who discovered genetic links to sexuality said he simply does not understand the response. The author of "The Sexual Brain" said there is nothing on a neurobiological basis to explain the aversion.

To film fan Eddie Hargreaves of Stockton, it's more like the "ick" of romantic drama. "I'm not going to speak for everybody," he said, "but I don't know a lot of straight guys who said, 'Oh, man, I can't wait to see "Bridges of Madison County," 1995's famous tearjerker.

"Brokeback Mountain," directed by Oscar winner Ang Lee and starring box-office hunks Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, is sparking both critical praise and water-cooler chatter. It's been nominated for seven Golden Globe awards.

But when movie critic Dave White, who is gay, wrote a humorous piece titled "The Straight Dude's Guide to 'Brokeback,' " "I got hundreds of messages, most of whom hated me for just existing," he said...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; barebackmountain; brokebackmountain; drusefton; enoughalready; gay; hollywood; homosexual; homosexualagenda; ick; pudding
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To: Fenris6
A scientist who discovered genetic links to sexuality said he simply does not understand the response.

Talk about not 'getting it' How did 'genetic' links get there in the first place? a turkey baster?

Maybe I have a definite genetic link which tells me homosexuality is sick.

41 posted on 01/15/2006 11:22:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: TFFKAMM
They just keep on trying to suggest that there is something wrong with US, because we dont want to see this garbage.

They use code-words like "affectionate" to suggest that normal men are NOT affectionate, which is nonsense.

Through my Navy career, I spent probably 95% of my time with men, and not once did it occur to me that another man's bare hairy ass was attractive or sexual. But if a squadmate had a bad day in an airplane, where his life was in question, and he brought it back, you think I wouldn't hug him?

The gays and their protectors just dont want to acknowledge that THEY have the problem, not us. I just sat through that Penguin movie with a woman on Rush's recommendation, and enjoyed it. That does not mean that I am about to watch any movie where two pudding-packers try to teach me about Man-love. No thanks!

42 posted on 01/15/2006 11:23:40 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: TFFKAMM
BROKENBUTT MOUNTAIN SONG
43 posted on 01/15/2006 11:24:42 AM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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To: TFFKAMM
I covered my eyes during Diane Keaton's nude flash in "Something's Gotta Give," but I'm a practicing (as often as possible) heterosexual male.

Right or wrong, gay or straight, there are some things ya just don't want to see, hear, or know about.

44 posted on 01/15/2006 11:25:03 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: TFFKAMM

"How can a man look at another man's h a i r y a$$ ... and find love?"

45 posted on 01/15/2006 11:25:32 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Any "genetic" link would have extinguished itself long ago according to Darwin's theory. I mean if you don't get into the gene pool you're extinguished in one generation. Don't they get it? It's their theory after all...can't have it both ways.


46 posted on 01/15/2006 11:26:24 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: Popman
I have a natural aversion to many things that are unnatural or perverse.

I have a natural aversion to thinking about guys who get poo-poo on their pee-pee.

47 posted on 01/15/2006 11:27:26 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: teenyelliott

I can't believe the guy who wrote Lonesome Dove put his name to this bucket of crap


48 posted on 01/15/2006 11:27:48 AM PST by mel
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To: TFFKAMM
The danger of this movie is that it indicts society as hateful and homophobic, an old liberal agenda ploy. The two men marry women because they cannot live together happily: society won't let them. The film criminalizes, as it were, moral convictions regarding the legitimate use of sex and sexuality, evoking sympathy for persons who cause great emotional harm to others (their wives), but seemingly only because of the evil of social mores. If only society could have accepted them, they would have married each other and avoided the harm society caused them to visit upon the women in their lives!

IT'S ALL WHITE, CHRISTIAN AMERICA'S FAULT!!


49 posted on 01/15/2006 11:27:51 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: TFFKAMM
Previous 300+ comment thread (though I see the SF Chronicle changed the title)

Many Straight Guys Say 'No Thanks' to 'Brokeback Mountain'

 

50 posted on 01/15/2006 11:28:16 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Roverman2K

Unless it's a martial arts movie.


51 posted on 01/15/2006 11:29:00 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Pukin Dog
"That does not mean that I am about to watch any movie where two pudding-packers try to teach me about Man-love. No thanks!"

To use a Rush term, ditto.

52 posted on 01/15/2006 11:29:04 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: TFFKAMM

53 posted on 01/15/2006 11:30:19 AM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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To: fox0566
We can easily see the road that we are headed down. Anyone who views homosexuality as sinful or perverted behavior will be termed as homophobic, mentally ill, bigoted, etc. It's already happening in other nations.

Hate to tell you this it's already happening here, too. Here is a Washgington Post article Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness. There is a movement afoot to make 'homophobia' an official mental illness by inclusion of it in DSM IV, the diagnostic manual for shrinks.

We become more and more like the Soviet Union with each passing day.

"We treat racism and homophobia as delusional disorders," said Shama ...

54 posted on 01/15/2006 11:30:34 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: teenyelliott
I knew one of the first Marlboro men. He was a cowboy, not a sheep herder, and he died with an oxygen bottle strapped to his back because he had emphysema caused by smoking. Cancer has an ick factor. Gay men in cowboy clothing has a revulsion factor.
55 posted on 01/15/2006 11:32:45 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: bigsigh; DTogo
That's been done hundreds of times, I'll bet, with a less recognizable cast. Usually found in theaters marked XXX or in brown paper bags.
56 posted on 01/15/2006 11:33:15 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: DTogo
Imagine the POSITIVE response from heterosexual male movie-goers if "Brokeback" was about two lesbian cowgirls, and starred, say, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Jessica Alba.

Hollywood would not make such a movie. There is "Boys Don't Cry" starring Hillary Swank as a lesbo seducing a girl while pretending to be a guy. Or how about "Monster," starring Charlize Theron as a butch lesbo serial killer. Nothing erotic about these movies unless you like watching diesel d*kes in plaid shirts. David Lynch's lesbo flick "Mulholland Drive" starring Naomi Watts had a more favorable treatment of lesbos but didn't pack the house with hetero guys. Sarah Michelle Gellar had a lipstick lesbian subplot going in "Cruel Intentions" but that didn't result in hetero men rushing to the theaters either to see it.

57 posted on 01/15/2006 11:33:30 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: DTogo

"Imagine the POSITIVE response from heterosexual male movie-goers if "Brokeback" was about two lesbian cowgirls, and starred, say, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Jessica Alba."


Umm... Excuse me. I'll be back in a few minutes...


58 posted on 01/15/2006 11:34:08 AM PST by FunkyZero
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To: kimoajax
In America we have heroic icons. The Liberals are determined to compromise ALL masculine icons of heroism.

I mean Fess Parker was gay and Davy Crockett sodomized bears as he wrestled with them. Thats the real reason Crockett went to Texas, he was outed!

And Wild Bill Hickock? Well he used to sexually assault boys he locked up in his jail, handcuffing them to the bars.

And you know Annie Oakly, well she was a dyke because she was really masculine and displaced her sexual inhibitions throgh shooting.

Somehow this all justifies Barney Franks and his stable of gay houseboys in Washington.

And cowboys? Well they were mostly gay, how the hell else could they spend months together on the open range without women??

Sarcasticoughing!!!

We can't defeat the right at the polls , so we will redefine what America actually IS by remythologizing American youth about America.

Gay folks are fine by me, no homophobia here, BUT when gays and gay culture try to seize cultural and political power based on minority, unhealthy lifestyles, THEN I HAVE A PROBLEM! HOLLYWOOD, Screw your attempts to revise the meaning of cowboy heroism. We have about 100,000 cowboys and cowgirls in Iraq. And their boots were made for walkin, not schlockin!

And I love every one of 'em, whether they are gay or not.

59 posted on 01/15/2006 11:34:46 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: peyton randolph

Bound: starring Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly


60 posted on 01/15/2006 11:36:30 AM PST by durasell (!)
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