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Schoolboy facing ban on bagpipes
CBBC Newsround ^ | 12/09/2005

Posted on 01/08/2006 6:30:17 PM PST by sionnsar

A teenager has been told to pipe down by his local council - literally!

Andrew Caulfield, 13, from Paisley in Scotland, was told to keep quiet after his neighbours complained about him playing the bagpipes in his garden.

The council decided to take action after everyone in his street signed a petition to get him to stop.

But his mum, Elaine, is angry, because Andrew is taking part in a scheme run by the same council to encourage kids to take up the traditional instrument.

She accused the council of being "two-faced" because they also wanted him to take part in official events, like Paisley's Santa parade.

But a council spokeswoman said: "We have received several complaints and a petition signed by local residents referring to excessive noise from the outdoor playing of bagpipes.

They tested Andrew's pipes and found they were louder than the accepted limit, she said.

'Frustrating'

The spokeswoman added that this case would not affect other school children who are learning to play the bagpipes, as they would all be given a special type of instrument to take home, which is much quieter.

Andrew has also since switched to a quieter set of pipes, but is still not allowed to play them without his neighbours agreeing to it.

He said "I love piping and not being able to play at home is very frustrating."


TOPICS: Education; Local News; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bagpipe; bagpipes; paisley; piobaireachd; piobmhor; piper; pipers; scotland
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"like Paisley's Santa parade"

Need anything more be said?

1 posted on 01/08/2006 6:30:19 PM PST by sionnsar
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To: Born Conservative; 19th LA Inf; expat_panama; Redleg Duke; protest1; John O; Sensei Ern; ...

Pipes and Drums of FreeRepublic ping!

This is an ultra-low-volume ping list (typically weeks to months between pings).
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2 posted on 01/08/2006 6:31:16 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006 | Is it February yet?)
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To: sionnsar

Playing highland pipes is like owning an elephant: Everyone knows you have them.


3 posted on 01/08/2006 6:38:21 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: sionnsar

What a crock. Yes, they're loud, and it makes sense to have training pipes, but please - does a kid with a drum get treated the same way? Just as load (and sometimes louder.)


4 posted on 01/08/2006 6:44:33 PM PST by kingu
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To: sionnsar

BASTIDS!


5 posted on 01/08/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: kingu
What a crock. Yes, they're loud, and it makes sense to have training pipes, but please - does a kid with a drum get treated the same way?

Yes, because kids with drums don't set up their drum sets outdoors in their gardens.

It seems that the parents want him to play outdoors and the neighbors want him to play indoors.

6 posted on 01/08/2006 6:55:26 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
Yes, because kids with drums don't set up their drum sets outdoors in their gardens.

Perhaps it is a regional thing, but around here, kids set up their drums in the garage, which usually doesn't make much difference in overall sound level.
7 posted on 01/08/2006 7:00:03 PM PST by kingu
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To: kingu
Perhaps it is a regional thing, but around here, kids set up their drums in the garage, which usually doesn't make much difference in overall sound level.

I live in the Puget Sound area. Around here, if you set up outdoors in the garden, the drums get water-logged and the guitarists get electrocuted. ;-)

8 posted on 01/08/2006 7:10:58 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
I live in the Puget Sound area. Around here, if you set up outdoors in the garden, the drums get water-logged and the guitarists get electrocuted. ;-)

I live in the Puget Sound area too. The neighbor kid plays his drums indoors, for what difference it makes.

I get complaints that I don't play my pipes outdoors enough. And this climate is near perfect for pipes...

9 posted on 01/08/2006 7:14:33 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006 | Is it February yet?)
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There used to be a guy who practiced the pipes deep in some woods where I would walk my dog sometimes. Good thing for his neighbors, he was awful. The pipes can be beautiful; but in the hands of an amateur, they're an instrument of torture.


10 posted on 01/08/2006 7:16:19 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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There used to be a guy who practiced the pipes deep in some woods where I would walk my dog sometimes. Good thing for his neighbors, he was awful. The pipes can be beautiful; but in the hands of an amateur, they're an instrument of torture.

I suspect that this is the case with young Andrew- probably has not fully mastered the pipes, or more likely, sounds like a goose in a garbage grinder.

11 posted on 01/08/2006 7:23:20 PM PST by AlbertWang
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...the same council to encourage kids to take up the traditional instrument.

People should be careful what they wish for, they just might get it.

12 posted on 01/08/2006 7:34:23 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sionnsar

The guy across the street from me has a set of bagpipes and plays them in his backyard from time to time in the summer. He's pretty good, so no one's complained or shot at him yet.


13 posted on 01/08/2006 7:34:49 PM PST by SoDak
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I love the Pipes...add me to this ping list!
14 posted on 01/08/2006 7:51:47 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: sionnsar
There's always the practice chanter...
15 posted on 01/08/2006 8:27:49 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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Schoolboy facing ban on bagpipes

Yeah, like that'll work. Everyone knows that you can't stop a schoolboy from playing with his bagpipes.

16 posted on 01/08/2006 8:37:58 PM PST by Mordacious
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There is a new invention here in the "Colonies". It is call the hearing protector. Let those intolerant jerks buy some and put them on.

I suppose I could express my surprise that the cheeks of their butts didn't suppress the music sufficiently, but that would be politically incorrect and intolerant. :-)

17 posted on 01/09/2006 3:43:11 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Polybius
"I live in the Puget Sound area. Around here, if you set up outdoors in the garden, the drums get water-logged and the guitarists get electrocuted."

You say that as if it were a bad thing!

18 posted on 01/09/2006 3:44:14 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: decal

The practice chanter is only good for the fingering. Keeping a full stand of pipes going is another matter and takes a bit of practice.


19 posted on 01/09/2006 3:45:48 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Redleg Duke

I always thought it would be cool to pour some liquid soap into a set of pipes and then play.


20 posted on 01/09/2006 3:49:13 AM PST by Rebelbase (Whew! Another year until the cursed green bean casserole strikes again!)
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