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Which would give you better mail service a private company the U.S. Postal Service?
Myself | Myself

Posted on 01/08/2006 12:41:03 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked

Okay enquiring minds want to know :

Which would you prefer a private company delivering your mail or the U.S.P.S.?


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To: Gordongekko909
Higher rates to out-of-the-way places would result in costs to deliver to more populous areas dropping. End result: everyone gets what they pay for.

At what cost?

Pricing everything at a flat rate that covers the cost is a reasonable and fair way to go. Why subsidize the liberal city centers with cheap service at the expense of citizens and businesses in Bush Country?

Everybody gets treated equally, 39 cents to pay the phone bill or write home to mom regardless of where you live.

Try that with FedEx and you will see how utterly wrong you are.

41 posted on 01/08/2006 1:12:01 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: muawiyah
Oh, it's possible to turn a profit doing what the USPS does? Then it can definitely be more cost-effective if run privately.
42 posted on 01/08/2006 1:13:04 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: babyface00
Package delivery started as a Post Office Department "experiment" in the 1920s.

It pretty much failed, mostly due to a failure of Congress to provide suitible capital support.

UPS, on the other hand, was a local package and furniture delivery business in Seattle. Some Post Office Department managers who were upset that Congress wouldn't support their scheme to "fix" parcel delivery for once and all, bought it out and turned it into today's UPS. First thing they did was dump the furniture moving part.

Fed Ex is pretty much the idea of a fellow who borrowed it from his roommate in college whose father, the postmaster of Gary, Indiana, had come up with it.

Mail delivery really shouldn't mix with parcel delivery, or furniture moving.

43 posted on 01/08/2006 1:14:56 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Generic_Login_1787; MadIvan
"England and Australia don't cover six time zones and 6,000 miles."

That may be a bit misleading.

Many of those 6,000 miles are not even close to being densely populated, where mail goes, or where mail delivery is necessary.

I've made many drives from Cleveland to New York, New York to Houston, Houston to Los Angeles, Los Angeles to Chicago and there's a ton of rural areas, lots of "no man's land."

Not much is going on, on the left hand side of the map, with the exception of the far left.


44 posted on 01/08/2006 1:16:12 PM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: Generic_Login_1787

1 & 2. Well I glad that you have had better "luck" with them than I have, but not getting mail or getting it in an unresasonable time frame, if at all is a weekly event in our area.

3. I don't need a smile I need service. When you see a 30 yo man that is 6 foot tall take baby steps to walk across the room to drop a package in a bin and walk back it makes me want to go "postal". This is of course when there are 7 or 9 people waiting in line. Is there so sort of union rule that they have to walk slow so that they don't make their co-workers look bad.


45 posted on 01/08/2006 1:16:23 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked ( God Bless our Military)
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To: Gordongekko909

Higher rates to out-of-the-way places would result in costs to deliver to more populous areas dropping. End result: everyone gets what they pay for.



Reckon that approach could be applied to other services that are provided for the good of mankind like:
Electricity
Natural gas
Water
Sewer
Garbage
Roads
Telephone

May not be a bad approach... pay for what you use.


46 posted on 01/08/2006 1:16:58 PM PST by deport (Happy and Prosperous 2006 to all.........)
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To: andyandval
The US Constitution reserves to the federal government the right to establish post offices and post roads.

This little deal is in the original text ~ not any amendment!

Might try reading the Constitution someday.

47 posted on 01/08/2006 1:17:18 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
When I complain to the post office supervisor he (on at least four occasions) has told me that they don't even have to deliver my mail, if I don't like their service, then I can drive across town to pick it up at the post office.

The voice of a Monopoly. Sheesh.

48 posted on 01/08/2006 1:17:58 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
My, my, my. Check's in the mail again~!

Telephones work. Call your correspondent. Ask them to bring by direct payment in gold!

Trust no one.

49 posted on 01/08/2006 1:23:24 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: adamsjas
Pricing everything at a flat rate that covers the cost is a reasonable and fair way to go. Why subsidize the liberal city centers with cheap service at the expense of citizens and businesses in Bush Country?

We're obviously using different definitions of the word "subsidize."

When I say "subsidize," I mean "forcibly allocate resources to something that would have otherwise gone somewhere else." It seems that when you say "subsidize," you simply mean "to cause resources, by whatever means, to go somewhere other than where they are now."

Since the free market would make sending letters to "liberal city centers" less costly, while sending letters to "Bush country" more costly, it's actually the city centers that are subsidizing the rural areas.

So no, a flat rate is neither reasonable nor fair, for the same reason that getting ten suits drycleaned for the same price as getting one shirt laundered for the same price is neither reasonable nor fair. That's like arguing that it ought to cost the same amount of gasoline to drive two city blocks as it does to drive fifty country miles. One involves a smaller expenditure of resources than the other, and so it is only rational that one should cost less than the other.

And I don't particularly care who lives and votes where. I vote Republican, and I live in an urban area (of sorts). Making this sort of thing out to be a jab at Bush voters is a Jesse Jackson tactic. Different service prices based on how much it costs to do the job simply represents a more efficient allocation of resources.

50 posted on 01/08/2006 1:25:31 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909

"Here's the thing: your taxes prop up the USPS no matter if you use it or not."

The USPS gets no federal subsidies. They make most of their money from junk mail. First class is an "inconvience" that they tolerate.


51 posted on 01/08/2006 1:25:50 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: Gordongekko909
Perhaps. But do you really think all of the money that is used to prop up the USPS would cease to be taken from US citizens?

It would just go to some b.s. entitlement program.

I'd rather have it going to the USPS.

Gubmint never, ever would let us have that money back.

52 posted on 01/08/2006 1:26:20 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: muawiyah
Might try reading the Constitution someday

I just went and read it. While the Constitution gives Congress the power (not the same thing as a right) to establish a post office. It is moot on exclusivity.
53 posted on 01/08/2006 1:26:52 PM PST by babyface00
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To: Gordongekko909
USPS operates without a direct government subsidy. Still, they don't pay taxes on the properties owned by the US government. Even if they were totally privatized you'd find the successor companies making deals with states to avoid taxation.

Now, when it comes to leased facilities (owned by private parties), USPS pays property taxes.

54 posted on 01/08/2006 1:27:15 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
"The US Constitution reserves to the federal government the right to establish post offices and post roads."

It's a RIGHT, not a MANDATE. The Constitution does not require a Post Office. Privatizing the USPS would be completely Constitutional.

55 posted on 01/08/2006 1:28:50 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: BlazingArizona
The device you were using was designed to accommodate the needs of the incidental mailer ~ not the pro bringing in major volume.

There are other postage payment practices you should learn about.

56 posted on 01/08/2006 1:29:13 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: babyface00
moot mute
57 posted on 01/08/2006 1:29:30 PM PST by babyface00
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To: andyandval

"What amendment to the Constitution created the USPS???

Not sure, but Ben Franklin was the first postmaster general. It was a cabinet position.


58 posted on 01/08/2006 1:30:29 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: Gordongekko909
No, it can be rapacious if operated privately and I'm the guy who knows what to do to bring that about.

The problem isn't to get the employees to work hard ~ rather, the problem is to shed load that doesn't support base costs.

59 posted on 01/08/2006 1:30:30 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: BlazingArizona
Well, I suppose any post office would only be as efficient as the person running that particular office, just like in the private sector.

My local post offices are great.

You certainly had the option of buying stamps to put on your packages. No one made you put $1 on each one.

But you are also entitled to your opinion.

60 posted on 01/08/2006 1:30:52 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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