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Spam, Spam, Spam, and more Spam. ( When is it going to get better Vanity )
Me | 01/08/20006 | Me

Posted on 01/08/2006 7:37:18 AM PST by devane617

Neal Boortz ask the question in his Neal's Nuze section this week: When will Spam be stopped, or become less? http://boortz.com/nuze/200601/01052006.html#spam

With all the tough talk I see no progress and maybe more Spam than ever. I suspect the answer is "money". Follow the money to the companies that combat Spam and you will find an industry that has been built for combating Spam, and Viruses.


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See Body of thread. I hate Spam.
1 posted on 01/08/2006 7:37:22 AM PST by devane617
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Oh, I love spam. I'll have the spam, eggs, bacon, and spam.


2 posted on 01/08/2006 7:41:01 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: devane617
Click-able link.
3 posted on 01/08/2006 7:41:05 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: devane617; Admin Moderator

Why not post from Neil's article, then post your comment, with the proper link to the article?

Spam? Yes, your messages is sorta like that.


4 posted on 01/08/2006 7:41:36 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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I choose to post just as I did. If you disagree, then move along to a thread you can agree with.


5 posted on 01/08/2006 7:43:15 AM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: devane617
The only way to stop spam is to charge to send an email. As long as it remains free to send as much email as you want, there will be spam.
6 posted on 01/08/2006 7:43:24 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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8 posted on 01/08/2006 7:44:19 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: devane617
Then you won't like this link.
9 posted on 01/08/2006 7:47:23 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: devane617

You may want to look for a better spam blocker, I' am down to just a few each day.
My mouse finger is starting to atrophy from lack of deleting exercise .


10 posted on 01/08/2006 7:47:38 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: wolfpat

baked beans and spam. good stuff


11 posted on 01/08/2006 7:49:05 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I run my own mail servers and have to maintain the blockers. Blocking Spam is of little use as the bandwidth is still being used. Out of site, out of mind, does not apply with Spam.
12 posted on 01/08/2006 7:50:43 AM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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Spam is sent because, sadly, it works. The best way to stop spam is to cure stupidity. I'm not sure the economy could survive after, though .

:)

We can make the business of spammers unprofitable by, en mass, wasting their time (and, of course, a bit of each of ours). Make it impossible for them to tell the difference between the real dupes responding to their spam, and the reverse-spammers flooding them with faux requests and incomplete orders.

The ONLY reason they are spamming is because they ARE making $$ from it.

13 posted on 01/08/2006 7:51:25 AM PST by M203M4
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To: beef

The only way to stop spam is to charge to send an email.

The most idiotic idea this year.


14 posted on 01/08/2006 7:54:38 AM PST by jwh_Denver (Meet the new year, same as the old year.)
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To: beef
The only way to stop spam is to charge to send an email. As long as it remains free to send as much email as you want, there will be spam.

Microsoft has/had an interesting solution to spam that runs along the lines of your solution: Every time you send e-mail, the receiving e-mail server refuses the e-mail unless your e-mail server provides the solution to a complex mathematical problem. IOW, the sending e-mail server must use computing horsepower to solve the problem and provide the receiving server the correct answer. The whole process might take a few seconds of processor time. For the two, three, four e-mails you and I send every day this would be no problem; in fact, we wouldn't notice. But for the spammer, who's sending millions of e-mails a day, it would bring his business down because he wouldn't have the computing horsepower to keep up with his volume of sent e-mail.

I don't know where this solution lies today. I heard about it about a year ago.

15 posted on 01/08/2006 8:00:08 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: beef

I just change my email address every few days. That seems to do the trick.


16 posted on 01/08/2006 8:03:58 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: beef

That's an old canard already, and no more true for wear. It costs money to send a fax but fax machines still get spammed like there is no tomorrow.

If you charge for sending email, what will happen in actuality is that the spammers will make zero change to what they already do, and the people whose addresses they spoof as the return addresses will end up with bills for millions upon millions of emails that they didn't send.

The way to stop spam is to institute draconian punishment for the ones we do catch, 20 year sentences for individuals and total confiscation of the assets of companies which use spam as advertising.


17 posted on 01/08/2006 8:07:10 AM PST by thoughtomator (Illegal immigrants come to America for a better life - yours!)
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To: randog

They'd just add another processor to handle that. It seems to be a fleeting solution dependent on current processing speeds.


18 posted on 01/08/2006 8:09:00 AM PST by thoughtomator (Illegal immigrants come to America for a better life - yours!)
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To: devane617
I think MailScanner is effective for many organizations.
19 posted on 01/08/2006 8:13:41 AM PST by snowsislander
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"But for the spammer, who's sending millions of e-mails a day, it would bring his business down because he wouldn't have the computing horsepower to keep up with his volume of sent e-mail."

That raises an interesting point. Can one be pro-capitalism and anti-spam at the same time? I wouldn't want to destroy someone's spamming business as long as the inconvenience on the receiving end is minimal to none.

20 posted on 01/08/2006 8:18:04 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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