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If 100 people sign up and begin editing, we might be able to balance the content of Wikipedia. As is typical, consensus is supposedly the hallmark of wikipedia, but PC reigns and we will have to work together to be effective.
1 posted on 12/29/2005 11:55:26 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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Wikipedia is a liberal "encyclopedia" that anyone can edit. Unfortunately, it is very popular and very "progressive", although its stated goal is to present factual information wit a neitral point of view. A perfect example in the Kwanzaa "article" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwanzaa), as is the "article" on abortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion), and the article on President Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush).

Any attempt to add balance to these articles is met by severe censoring and shouting down or shutting down editors. I suggest people sign up (free and anonymous) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Userlogin) and start politely editing. Once there, to gain "credibility" I suggest you look around and then for the first few days edit only uncontroversial articles for grammar or choppiness or poor citation - you will then be seen as a neutral editor (everyone is an "editor"). I suggest using a different screen name than you do at FR.


2 posted on 12/29/2005 11:56:28 PM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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If these neckbolts want their own 'pedia, let them have it. They can't figure out they are dying a slow death because they are so wrapped up in their hateful ways. IMO anyway.


3 posted on 12/29/2005 11:57:41 PM PST by Bullitt
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Hehehehe, this is what they say about the practice of "Freeping" over there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Republic

"The influencing of online polls by Free Republic's members is a common practice. Known as "freeping" a poll, the practice is not unique to the Free Republic forums and is employed by many other activist websites of all political stripes. It involves posting a message thread directing members to vote en masse in an online poll and including a link to the poll, particularly those on television network or newspaper websites, with the intended goal of significantly affecting the final outcome. Cf. astroturfing."


4 posted on 12/29/2005 11:59:14 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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Can you provide specific objections to the pages you linked?

(Also, no one can edit President Bush's entry right now... apparently someone has been vandalizing it, so it's been "locked")


5 posted on 12/30/2005 12:05:54 AM PST by okstate
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Kwanzaa "article" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwanzaa )
Abortion "article" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion )
President Bush "article" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush ).

Login: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Userlogin


6 posted on 12/30/2005 12:07:05 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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It's a book of sand. A month ago I played with editing and adding content to a few pages, but I am giving now in discouragement deciding it is a waste of time.


9 posted on 12/30/2005 12:20:16 AM PST by Mount Athos
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I edited the section on Mexico that was completely biased and poorly written as well. It said in its history that the U.S. invaded Texas and then invaded Mexico and demanded all the territory that it has today. I changed it to reflect that Texas voted to be apart of the Union and Mexico subsequently attacked the United States, and after surrendering the U.S. agreed to purchase the remaining disputed territories. I made a bunch of other edits too that stayed.

Usually my edits dont stay. Although sometimes it still has an effect. It labeled Free Republic has a controversial website, so i changed it to 'popular website'. Now it just say "Free Republic is an internet forum.."

Meh


14 posted on 12/30/2005 1:03:34 AM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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Wikis and FReeps are examples of demos in action. Democracy is the rule of fools by fools and polls are the truest form of direct democracy. Wikis and Freeps are merely subtle 'polls'.
15 posted on 12/30/2005 3:01:37 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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Does anyone take that site seriously? I wouldn't believe that site if it told me who is buried in Grants Tomb!


16 posted on 12/30/2005 3:58:02 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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If you want to vandalise Wikipedia entries, perhaps you should just to it on your own terms and not tarnish the name of FreeRepublic in the process.


17 posted on 12/30/2005 4:00:01 AM PST by jjbrouwer (Falling down that hill)
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If wikepedia is a liberal site then why are we getting involved. We need to keep our noses out of it. Do we want liberals coming on here and making our site more liberal friendly. I wish us conservatives would worry about the issues and not stupid things like liberal websites.


18 posted on 12/30/2005 4:00:57 AM PST by napscoordinator
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What would you change on the abortion article?


24 posted on 12/30/2005 4:46:07 AM PST by toadthesecond
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I do find the site a very useful tool in my line of work.


25 posted on 12/30/2005 4:48:06 AM PST by hawkaw
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Good luck with your effort. Please be aware that you will have to overcome a well entrenched contingent of uber-left wing activists who not only edit Wikipedia but literally run the place.

Most of wikipedia's administrators, bureaucrats, and arbitrators (the people with sysop powers who really run the show there and revert any content they dislike) are far left wing activists.

If you want to see some truly sickening bias on Wikipedia read the NAMBLA article (NAMBLA is the gay activist group that promotes child molesting). It is basically a mixture of pedophile propaganda and political commentary aimed at insulating other leftists from association with NAMBLA in light of its much-deserved legal troubles. If you look at NAMBLA's edit history you will see that the article is closely guarded and maintained by two types of editors, who essentially ensure its status quo and censor out anything that calls NAMBLA what it truly is. These are (1) wikipedia administrators and (2) pedophiles themselves (yes, there are pedophiles all over wikipedia who edit it to promote their sick agenda http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20679 ).

Look at the edit history and see just how sick and entrenched this problem is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association&action=history

One recent edit description from a NAMBLA supporter who actively guards this artice says "NAMBLA doesn't "advocate" pederasty or pedophilia. It advocates ending the oppression of people engaged in consensual relationships." There's another editor - an administrator named Willmcw, who appears to be some sort of homosexual activist, who actively guards this article and tries to disguise the fact that NAMBLA is homosexual - "Revision as of 09:59, 25 December 2005 Willmcw (Talk | contribs) their interest may be towards the same sex, but that doens't make them an "LGBT organization"" - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_American_Man%2FBoy_Love_Association&diff=32673254&oldid=32671013

44 posted on 12/30/2005 11:21:18 AM PST by lqclamar
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Ever see the Warner Brothers cartoon where the little Dutch boy puts a finger in a dike to stop a leak, only for another to spring, so he covers that and soon as he runs out of appendages to plug the holes, the water spurts out his ears?

Instead let wiki die a very liberal death of unreliability.


48 posted on 12/30/2005 11:39:14 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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The Kwanzaa article there must have changed over the past week or so. I remember looking earlier and seeing information about Everett and his torturing two young girls as well as his gang's murder of two rival gang members. Hmmmm....


49 posted on 12/30/2005 11:41:43 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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Someone added FR reference to ZOT!

Other meanings of "Zot!"

Zot! is also the sound that the anteater makes in the B.C. comic strip authored by Johnny Hart.

The mascot of the University of California, Irvine is an anteater based on the BC comic. Its battle cry is Zot!.

Zot was also a Flash Gordon character; this use led to the word becoming a nickname for Vietnam-era laser-guided bombs.

ZOT is the (typed) sound of a lightning-strike from the Usenet Oracle when a supplicant annoys the deity.

On the discussion forum Free Republic, ZOT! is the term for banning those who sign up for the purpose of putting up troll posts. The name of the thread is changed (for example I'm so stupid, I signed up and got the zot) and the forum members are then allowed to attack the zotted troll en masse.
58 posted on 12/30/2005 1:40:17 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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FWIW- I looked up a public figure, whom I happen to personally know, his biography on Wiki is full of errors- and he is by chance a Conservative. I sent my friend a link so he could contact WIki folks and tell them to change the entry. I will keep you updated.
62 posted on 12/30/2005 2:25:54 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Embrace peace- Hug an American soldier- the real peace keepers.)
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Check out Wikipedia's entry for "Militarism."

You'll find three culprits -- Germans, Japanese and the US:

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76 posted on 12/30/2005 3:30:34 PM PST by Sam Hill
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Wikipedia Class Action :: Lawsuit [www.wikipediaclassaction.org]
http://www.wikipediaclassaction.org/


79 posted on 12/30/2005 3:55:06 PM PST by Sam Hill
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