Atlanta History Center acquires Gen. Sherman's field orders

AP ^ | 12/26/5

[Crackingham]

The Atlanta History Center has obtained Civil War field orders handwritten by Union General William T. Sherman. The history center got the field orders in a deal that was clinched with the offer of a bundle of Confederate currency that was donated to the center. Of the documents, 50 are field orders written by Sherman and two are orders written by his aides. They join another 12 orders the Atlanta History Center already had.

"Sherman surrendered," said history center president Jim Bruns, who likes the idea of Sherman's orders returning to the city the general ordered burned down.

The orders are so valuable because they "show Sherman's intentions, the deliberateness of his movements," Bruns said. "They make it clear that he wasn't going to camp here, and he wasn't going to garrison the city. So he had to destroy the city."

The documents will go on display by next September, Bruns said.

The deal for the 52 field orders was aided by the contribution of a stash of about 3,000 Confederate States of America notes that were discovered decades ago by developer Dick Myrick. Myrick, who kept the notes in a briefcase for 33 years, decided last summer to donate them to the cause of acquiring Sherman's orders.

"It really was the Confederate currency that got it started," said Seth Kaller, the historic documents dealer who had Sherman's orders. "Dick's contribution was one of the first that was significant enough for us to know the Atlanta History Center was going to be able to acquire Sherman's orders."

[cowboyway]

Sarge is fighting a real war.

Sarge is posting on Free Republic.

And by the way, are you and some of the other Sarge defenders on this thread implying that only those who have fought in a war be the only ones with freedom of speech?

[StarCMC]

To quote one my favorite Cartoon characters:

"You are a strange, sad little man."

[StarCMC]

only those who have fought in a war be the only ones with freedom of speech?

Obviously not cause you're still here. And so am I. No military service whatsoever. You guys make me ashamed to be a member of FR and ashamed to say I'm from the south. Some of us HAVE learned from history and have chosen to take that knowlege and move on. Others are stuck in it. I think this thread pretty much shows who is who. What do you hope to achieve with this campaign? Will it change the outcome of a war long past? Are you wanting your precious "Sothron" states to begin secession?? If so, why don't you get to work on that and quit annoying the rest of us? Good freaking grief!

[cowboyway]

Smart enough to get himself killed by his own troops.

Based on that garbage, I would like to politely suggest that you change your sign in name.

[StarCMC]

*shaking the dust from my feet*

[Rebelbase]

Your confusion stems from the fact that some people don't have a blind bias towards the Old South and can form opinions of historical events without being clouded by the romanticism of the Confederacy.

[Ditto]

Furthermore, just because Sherman didn't hesitate to make war on noncombatants during his March to the Sea (women, children and the elderly), doesn't mean that he would have been effective against one of his own kind.

"Sherman, in his march across Georgia and up through Carolina, had sixty thousand men with him. I don't know what percentage of them were illiterate. I know there were very few men in there with a delicacy of manners that you'd expect nowadays. And the whole time he made that march, those sixty thousand men, I had not heard of one case of rape. And that is one of the finest compliments I know you can pay this country and the soldiers it produced that we did not engage in these usual horrendous things that are common in civil war. The fact that we spoke the same language is not what made us close together. In fact, in most civil wars they speak the same language, and they're very savage with each other. But somehow we didn't do that."
--- Shelby Foote

[Rebelbase]

STOP THAT!

You're interjecting a researched opinion from a famous Southern Civil War historian/author into the conversation and that conflicts with the Sherman hating rhetoric that is so much a part of the romantic Confederate apologist's arguments.

[cowboyway]

Your confusion stems from the fact that some people don't have a blind bias towards the Old South and can form opinions of historical events without being clouded by the romanticism of the Confederacy

Please read my post #79 and if you still think that I am 'confused' then there is no need for further dialog.

[Rebelbase]

Let's see, Yankee propaganda bad, Confederate propaganda good. Did I get that correct?

How about someone reading from multiple sources and forming their own opinions which might differ from yours? Is that acceptable?

[Ditto]

What can I do? I'm just one of those cold-hearted sob's who is more interested in history than mythology. ;~))

[cowboyway]

How about someone reading from multiple sources and forming their own opinions which might differ from yours? Is that acceptable?

Well now that is an odd statement when, in fact, when stand watie or myself express our opinions, we are attacked from the usual characters, yourself included, for having a different opinion as yours.

Now what's up with that?

In addition, from my post #79:

All I ask is that you yankees consider that some of the history of the War Between the States is, in fact, yankee propaganda used by the politicians of that day to further their own agendas and still being used to this day.

After all, look at your yankee politicians of today and try to envision what the Iraq War history would look like if written by Kerry, Kennedy, Hillary, Dean, Schumer, etc.

Now picture this gang being around in 1865.

Now, let's ponder the premise that these 'multiple sources' that you've been reading to 'form your opinion' was written by a gang such as Kennedy, Kerry, Hillary, etc.?

Are you intellectually nimble enough to consider that 'your opinion' could possibly be erroneous due to the revised history/propaganda that were your sources?

BTW, is Virginia still considered a Southern state?

[4CJ]

We've been letting these threads have a little too much latitude, so let's start right now. Who wants to be the first one in the cooler?

I have ancestors who fought in wars from the Revolutionary War to the "Civil" War - those ancestors sacrificed their lives for us, to maintain and defend the system of LIMITED government instituted by the framers, they understood the Constitution and the federal/state relationship in which the federal government is the creation of the states, and not their master.

I would be more than happy to conduct reasoned discourse on the issue, but the same posters always jump in, slander our ancestors and us, attempting to paint anyone believing in limited government as a racist traitor. My ancestors did not secede to preserve or extend slavery. Abraham Lincoln is on record repeatedly voicing his desire for a white America, and did not wage war to free slaves [freeper Nolu Chan was banned for having the temerity to post Lincoln's statement's to that effect here]. George Washington did not consider himself a traitor when he supported secession from Great Britain, nor did my ancestors.

Personally I think it's pathetic that stand watie is condemned despite his years of military service, and is called every racist name in the book here, or denigrated by allusions to his ethnicity, by posters referring to him as 'chief' or 'Tonto'. That's the tactics of liberals, the ACLU and DU'ers. As my tag line states, I'll never give in to evil, and that's what their attempts are.

IMHO, our greatest President - one Ronald Wilson Reagan - a conservative without modern-day peer, found no reason to condemn Confederates, their families, or their ancestors. He once opined that Confederate President Davis was a hero of his. The surviving participants of that war shook hands when it was over, recognizing the valor and gallantry of those on both sides, and lauding the sacrifices made by those that gave their very lives.

I simply wish to honour my ancestors as my Lord and Saviour commands me, and to raise a flag symbolizing their willingnes to die for freedom and self-government. I can only say that if defending their honour, advocating a desire for limited government, 'for freedom, for America and our constitution ... against totalitarianism, socialism, tyranny, [and] terrorism' is somehow worthy of a trip to the cooler, then I'll proudly 'volunteer'.

With all due respect sir or ma'am, I am,

your humble servant,

4CJ aka 4ConservativeJustices

[darkwing104]

I guess you didn't check my home page then...

Your rhetoric is the same rhetoric that keeps the Arabs hating the Israelis. Been going that way for a few thousand years.

That rhetoric is what keeps the Croats hating the Serbs and both disliking the Muslims in Bosnia.

The same rhetoric that keeps tribes in Africa and Asia trying to wipe each other out.

Lastly Northern Ireland. I wonder how many wars been fought because of warped historical perspectives and bullsh*t spreading.

I don't mind historical discussions and good debates but this is just a little too bizarre to deal with. Get over it and you will find that most Southerners and Northerners are descent folks.

If you want to get your point out then write a book and prove your allgations to historians

[MEG33]

Who said he was the only one free to speak?? I do think it is understandable that Sarge gets plenty of support. Right now he is engaged in serving our country, in Ramadi.

Those who would wallow angrily in the past, and nurse their grievances from it are somehow less compelling to me at the moment.

When things calm down and we have no Americans in harms way, I may become more interested in Civil War victimology. I love history.

There are no living victims of that war.

[MEG33]

Exactly.

[stand watie]

i'm THANKFUL that you're NOT a HATER.

otoh, should (and i truly hope you never do!) you get the HATE-FILLED & frequently overtly racist comments i get by e-mail (i was once dumb enough to let several people know my real-name/address/phone/e-mail), from people who claim to be FReepers, you would see things somewhat differently.

sorry if my tagline offends you, but it UNFORTUNATELY is accurate for 10% of northerners.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

excellent point!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

it's PERFECTLY acceptable for everyone to have completely DIFFERENT opinions on any subject.

it's called FREEDOM of SPEECH.

may i gently remind everyone here that the founders of this republic made that FIRST in the BOR (and NOT by accident!), that it was designed to protect UNPOPULAR speech(popular speech needs NO protection.)

even HATE speech (including verbal attacks against people like me) is OK, as long as it doesn't escalate to violence.

and that's all i have to say on that.

free dixie,sw

[MEG33]

The mod requested you change your tagline. I ask that you do also.