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Almighty God created Satan and evils

Posted on 12/18/2005 4:18:30 PM PST by kevnmoon

Why are devils created? Almighty God created Satan and evils; what is the wisdom in it? Isn’t the creation of evil, evil, and the creation of bad, bad? God forbid, the creation of evil is not evil, the ‘acquisition’ of or desire for evil, rather, is evil. For creation and bringing into existence look to all the consequences, whereas such desire looks to a particular result, since it is a particular relation. For example, there are thousands of consequences of rain falling, and all of them are good. If through mischoice, some people receive harm from the rain, they cannot say that the creation of rain is not mercy, they cannot state that the creation of rain is evil. For it is due to their mischoice and inclination that it is evil for them. Also, there are numerous benefits in the creation of fire, and all of them are good. But if some people receive harm from fire through their misuse of it and their wrong choice, they cannot say that the creation of fire is evil; because it was not only created to burn them. Rather, they thrust their hands into the fire while cooking the food through mischoice, and made that servant inimical to themselves. The lesser evil is acceptable for the greater good. If an evil which will lead to a greater good is abandoned so that a lesser evil should not be, a greater evil will then have been perpetrated Thus, the creation and bringing into existence of evils, harms, tribulations, satans, and harmful things, is not evil and bad, for they are created for the many important results they yield. For example, satans have not been set to pester the angels, and the angels cannot progress; their degrees are fixed and deficient. Thus, through the creation of satans and the mystery of man’s accountability and the sending of prophets, an arena of trial and examination and striving and competition has been opened so that coal-like base spirits may be differentiated and separated out from diamond-like elevated spirits. If there had been no striving and competition, the potentialities in the mine of humanity which are like diamonds and coal would have remained equal. This means that since the creation of satans and evils looks to great and universal results, their being brought into existence is not evil or bad. The evils and instances of bad that arise from abuses and the particular causes known as inclination or choice pertain to man’s ‘acquisition’ and choice, not to Divine creation.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: beebers; satan; satanandwisdom; whowantskoolaid
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To: Baraonda

thank you for the second


41 posted on 12/18/2005 5:01:27 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: kevnmoon
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42 posted on 12/18/2005 5:02:45 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Completely like that.. Satan or Satanic may be used for everything that divert us.


43 posted on 12/18/2005 5:03:06 PM PST by kevnmoon
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To: Michael Goldsberry

Thanks , I am opening this site now..


44 posted on 12/18/2005 5:03:59 PM PST by kevnmoon
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To: whispering out loud
Ok here's my two cents. John chapter one, "By him were all things made, and without him was nothing made that was made. God created all that was good, as a result, evil existed. Without evil there would be no good, good would actually be just the way things are, ie if you take out the valleys, then hills become prairies. G-d did not directly create evil, but evil is the absence of good, so by creating good, then he created evil by default. God is a perfect being, and would not create a world without balance. But this is just the ignorant ramblings of someone who has spent his entire life studying the holy scriptures of God. thank you, and God bless

G-d created evil and good. Directly or indirectly, doesn't matter. Both exist. He has his reasons for it. Such knowledge is too wonderful for us.

45 posted on 12/18/2005 5:05:09 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Might I ask without offence why you won't use the direct word God, I'm sure you have your reasons, I'm just wondering what they might be.


46 posted on 12/18/2005 5:09:29 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: kevnmoon

Bye troll


47 posted on 12/18/2005 5:10:11 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Baraonda

Satan isn't good. God Who Created satan has alot of Wisdoms on him.. Satan will be in hell with his friends.


48 posted on 12/18/2005 5:14:24 PM PST by kevnmoon
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To: whispering out loud
Might I ask without offence why you won't use the direct word God, I'm sure you have your reasons, I'm just wondering what they might be.

No offense taken. What do you consider the "direct word of God"? I do not accept NT writings as inspired.

49 posted on 12/18/2005 5:15:30 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: kevnmoon

ib4tz?


50 posted on 12/18/2005 5:15:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Canonization is another name for mental cowardice. IMHO,I am sure the original Greek or Hebrew is the best version but only if enough study about the word usage, at the time it was written, is done.

Ppl who blindly accept the KJ versions, or any other, are putting a lot of credibility on Other ppl's ability to see the TRUTH. There is only ever ONE truth. There are many teachers and students. We are COMMANDED to constantly search for the truth and hopefully we will come to see it..

51 posted on 12/18/2005 5:15:59 PM PST by glowworm ( Liberalism is truly a mental condition...)
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To: kevnmoon

You did not understand my post


52 posted on 12/18/2005 5:16:45 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; whispering out loud

Just thought I'd toss in some food for thought...:)

This whole thread hinges upon what the original poster was implying, actually.

If he's trying to say that God is "bad and intentionally created evil", then we'd have a reason to be mad about it.

Not knowing what the original intent of the post is, I'm just following along with the development of the thread and [hopefully] learning new things.


53 posted on 12/18/2005 5:18:22 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I always counter study with the Strong's, I have not yet learned to read, nor speak Greek, Hebrew, nor Chaldea, but I do use the Strong's, and re translate the scriptures directly for myself.
54 posted on 12/18/2005 5:18:57 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

My question though was not about the "Word of God", I was refering to your use of the term G-d.


55 posted on 12/18/2005 5:20:19 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: whispering out loud
I always counter study with the Strong's, I have not yet learned to read, nor speak Greek, Hebrew, nor Chaldea, but I do use the Strong's, and re translate the scriptures directly for myself.

So tell me again why it is your opinion my views lend you to believe I don't use the direct word of God? (by the way, I do own a strong's)

56 posted on 12/18/2005 5:22:37 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: whispering out loud

Oh ok, now I understand. Its just a form of respect that some Jews don't spell out the name of God. No biggie.


57 posted on 12/18/2005 5:23:32 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Salamander
If he's trying to say that God is "bad and intentionally created evil", then we'd have a reason to be mad about it.

Not knowing what the original intent of the post is, I'm just following along with the development of the thread and [hopefully] learning new things.

I don't think he's trying to say God is "bad". I do, however, not think G-d is bad for intentionally creating evil. Like I said before he has his reasons and such knowledge is beyond us.

58 posted on 12/18/2005 5:26:03 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Someday we'll have no more questions....:)


59 posted on 12/18/2005 5:29:28 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Ahh I see, that's cool. As far as the original point of my post, I was trying to say, pretty much exactly what you said. I may not have eloquted well enough, but I believe the whole bible, just as it was originally written. When John chapter 1 said "by him were all things made, and without him was nothing made that was made" I believe it meant just that. God spoke into existence everything that exists.
60 posted on 12/18/2005 5:30:03 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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