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Almighty God created Satan and evils

Posted on 12/18/2005 4:18:30 PM PST by kevnmoon

Why are devils created? Almighty God created Satan and evils; what is the wisdom in it? Isn’t the creation of evil, evil, and the creation of bad, bad? God forbid, the creation of evil is not evil, the ‘acquisition’ of or desire for evil, rather, is evil. For creation and bringing into existence look to all the consequences, whereas such desire looks to a particular result, since it is a particular relation. For example, there are thousands of consequences of rain falling, and all of them are good. If through mischoice, some people receive harm from the rain, they cannot say that the creation of rain is not mercy, they cannot state that the creation of rain is evil. For it is due to their mischoice and inclination that it is evil for them. Also, there are numerous benefits in the creation of fire, and all of them are good. But if some people receive harm from fire through their misuse of it and their wrong choice, they cannot say that the creation of fire is evil; because it was not only created to burn them. Rather, they thrust their hands into the fire while cooking the food through mischoice, and made that servant inimical to themselves. The lesser evil is acceptable for the greater good. If an evil which will lead to a greater good is abandoned so that a lesser evil should not be, a greater evil will then have been perpetrated Thus, the creation and bringing into existence of evils, harms, tribulations, satans, and harmful things, is not evil and bad, for they are created for the many important results they yield. For example, satans have not been set to pester the angels, and the angels cannot progress; their degrees are fixed and deficient. Thus, through the creation of satans and the mystery of man’s accountability and the sending of prophets, an arena of trial and examination and striving and competition has been opened so that coal-like base spirits may be differentiated and separated out from diamond-like elevated spirits. If there had been no striving and competition, the potentialities in the mine of humanity which are like diamonds and coal would have remained equal. This means that since the creation of satans and evils looks to great and universal results, their being brought into existence is not evil or bad. The evils and instances of bad that arise from abuses and the particular causes known as inclination or choice pertain to man’s ‘acquisition’ and choice, not to Divine creation.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: beebers; satan; satanandwisdom; whowantskoolaid
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To: kevnmoon
I think you're on to something.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

21 posted on 12/18/2005 4:36:13 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Petronski

Mmm, nutbars.


22 posted on 12/18/2005 4:36:58 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

"I think you're on to something."

I think he's on something.


23 posted on 12/18/2005 4:37:03 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Um, the Book of Beebers has not been cannonized. Stuned, yes, but not cannonized.


24 posted on 12/18/2005 4:38:02 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: kevnmoon
Despite the incoherent ramblings of this author, God did not create evil. Devils are fallen angels who chose to reject God, for they, like us, have free will.
25 posted on 12/18/2005 4:39:48 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: Nihil Obstat

Isaiah 45:7. Hebrew Scriptures. The only way it doesn't mean what it says is by clever interpretation.


26 posted on 12/18/2005 4:40:36 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Larry Lucido
Um, the Book of Beebers has not been cannonized. Stuned, yes, but not cannonized.

Uh, what about the Holy Book of Armaments?

27 posted on 12/18/2005 4:41:09 PM PST by NeoCaveman (The United States Senate is turning me into an unicameralist)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

*curtsying*


;D


28 posted on 12/18/2005 4:41:40 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Larry Lucido; kevnmoon
Other apocrypha.
29 posted on 12/18/2005 4:41:46 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Larry Lucido
You would keep the Book of Beebers out of the cannon?

Heretic! Come here so that I may smite thee!

Or we could talk about it over coffee. Either way.

30 posted on 12/18/2005 4:41:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Interesting page devoted to the issue;

http://www.carm.org/diff/Isa_45_7.htm

English translation is such a touchy thing.
Many years ago I taught myself Greek to read the NT and was surprised at how different some verses were from those I'd read in the KJV.


31 posted on 12/18/2005 4:45:42 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: kevnmoon

a ZOT in the making, I feel


32 posted on 12/18/2005 4:46:12 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Hebrew Scriptures.

Nope. KJV.

Not the same thing. In other translations the word is disaster or troubles.

33 posted on 12/18/2005 4:47:55 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: Americanchild

Got created Satan as an Angel.. and It rejected.. Ok.. Same thoughts.. Thanks


34 posted on 12/18/2005 4:49:28 PM PST by kevnmoon
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To: kevnmoon
Say Your Prayers
 


35 posted on 12/18/2005 4:54:38 PM PST by vigilante2 (Merry Christmas)
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To: kevnmoon

Have you read Enoch?


36 posted on 12/18/2005 4:54:39 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Salamander; Invincibly Ignorant
Ok here's my two cents. John chapter one, "By him were all things made, and without him was nothing made that was made. God created all that was good, as a result, evil existed. Without evil there would be no good, good would actually be just the way things are, ie if you take out the valleys, then hills become prairies. God did not directly create evil, but evil is the absence of good, so by creating good, then he created evil by default. God is a perfect being, and would not create a world without balance. But this is just the ignorant ramblings of someone who has spent his entire life studying the holy scriptures of God. thank you, and God bless
37 posted on 12/18/2005 4:58:06 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: Salamander
Many years ago I taught myself Greek to read the NT and was surprised at how different some verses were from those I'd read in the KJV

The New JPS Translation according to the Traditional Hebrew Text translates the word "evil" as "woe". In context, the verse contrasts "woe" being the oposite of "peace" and earlier in the same verse "Darkness" as the being the opposite" of light. The website you directed me to translates "Rah" as some type of "calamity". Evil, woe & calamity all equate to something bad, oposite of "good". Hence, I still think he's on to something.

38 posted on 12/18/2005 4:58:53 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Michael Goldsberry

No, I haven't red it,yet.


39 posted on 12/18/2005 4:59:39 PM PST by kevnmoon
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To: kevnmoon

"Why are devils created? Almighty God created Satan and evils; what is the wisdom in it?"

To compare and contrast and, ultimately, to appreciate good. Ergo, there is no good w/o evil.


40 posted on 12/18/2005 5:00:41 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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