Posted on 12/10/2005 6:41:44 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
Apple Computer has quietly voiced its concerns about the growing threat it faces from Linux in the desktop market.
The Californian manufacturer's concerns emerged in its Form 10-K filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission late last week. The 10-K is an annual report on the company's business, and an effective disclaimer on factors that may affect the company's future performance
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Free software guys sure do hate U.S. businesses. No wonder they are in so tight with the UN & DNC.
There goes the overcharging fallacy again. Depending on what you're looking for, a Mac can be a lot cheaper than a Windows box.
You mean like those free software guys who run U.S. businesses, and the conservatives who use their software?
Operating System share based on Internet server log statistics -
From TheCounter.com -
November 2005 -
Mac - 3% (2,513,689 visits)
Linux - 0% (316,571)January 2005 -
Mac - 2% (1,715,393)
Linux - 0% (240,339)
From Net Applications -
November 2005 -
Mac OS - 4.11%
Linux - 0.30%January 2005 -
Mac OS - 3.41%
Linux - 0.30%
According to the real-world statistics, there is no evidence that Apple feels any squeeze from Linux.
I don't know if I'd go that far, but they're certainly competitive. Plus, the move to Intel opens the floodgates to about a zillion dollars worth of Intel ad bucks, if they want it.
I think Apple will be just fine.
In certain scenarios they are cheaper (check an xServe vs. a Dell, or an iMac vs. a Sony), others competitive. It all depends on your requirements of course. And I agree the move to Intel will help, given that performance will be mostly removed from the equation.
In the server space Apple is threatened by everybody.
I probably have more marketshare than they do.
Hal, stop peddling manufactured numbers.
About a year 1/2 ago, google put linux at around 1%. And there's no question that linux has grown.
Yeah, I know. They hate Red Hat too. But that isn't stopping Red Hat from it's continued success.
So what?
So friggin what?
^^^^^^^^^There goes the overcharging fallacy again.^^^^^^^^^^
What fallacy? This isn't a windows/mac argument.
^^^^^^^^^Depending on what you're looking for, a Mac can be a lot cheaper than a Windows box.^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Apple Feels the Squeeze From Linux" Is the title, as well as the vast majority of the content.
Even then they don't necessarily overcharge. A lot of people buy Macs just to put Linux on them, like Linus.
Stop acting willfully ignorant, halfman. Those statistics show that Macs are enjoying much better growth than Linux.
About a year 1/2 ago, google put linux at around 1%. And there's no question that linux has grown.
Google Zeitgeist had Mac at 3%-to-4% in those reports, and there's no question that Mac has grown much more than desktop Linux since then.
For everyone who is sick and tired of Windows problems - don't waste your time with Linux. Linux is a great operating system for servers, but the user interface absolutely stinks for use on a desktop computer. Linux is not a good OS for the average computer user. Get a Mac instead - it's far better than Windows or Linux.
Yeah, overcharge was the wrong word to use. I was trying to convey more of "most expensive but not necessarily the best" rather than what overcharge brings which is the idea that they're gouging.
Agreed about linux only macs. You can buy these machines without MacOS ever even touching the drive to my knowledge.
That I'll agree on, definitely on the hardware angle.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Google Zeitgeist had^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, so then wtf. You tell me that I'm being willfully ignorant, yet you know as well as I do that linux is at least at 1%. You post numbers that *now* peg it at .3 or whatever while at the same time putting MacOS at 4. Both numbers are simply impossible to attain unless the sources you are citing are only focusing in on one market(american), or they are picking and choosing the websites they attain logs from. That's the only way.
Based on worldwide computer numbers, apple simply can't have 4%. Apple only pegs it's userbase at around 25 mil. Thus my tagline, apple's own numbers are hard to argue with.
Yet here you are, arguing the impossible.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Those statistics show that Macs are enjoying much better growth than Linux.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Which show how flawed your numbers are. If mac growth is that good then they must only be specific to the american market. Apple's computers are too expensive to be growing in most nations, besides parts of europe, japan, and Australia. The rest of the world isn't going apple. They're pirating windows or going linux.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Google Zeitgeist had Mac at 3%-to-4% in those reports, and there's no question that Mac has grown much more than desktop Linux since then.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Google Zeitgeist had Mac at 3%.
http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-jun04.html
Which interestingly enough(without going back and looking) this is also where Gartner and IDC pegged them. Hmmmmm....
Hopefully Googl will do this again soon. There's no question in my mind that Apple's userbase has grown, percentage wise is a different story though. There's no question that Linux has grown too. The question is where are they now.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Linux is a great operating system for servers, but the user interface absolutely stinks for use on a desktop computer.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That has been proven demonstrably wrong. Linux as a desktop falls somewhere inbetween Win and Mac.
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