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I'm not going to hit you, but I'll be honest with you. Your good boy/holier than thou schtick is one of the major reasons you're lonely and alone. At some point a grown man has to realize that even good people make bad decisions. In your world those who give in to their lusts might be ruined for life, but the real world doesn't work that way.

You're right, Melas. My current galpal had a VERY wild run between age 16-25, though then had a personal odyssey that settled her down a lot. I didn't even know her until well after this process ended. I never ask about pasts, but early in our courtship she sat me down and told me about her back story, mostly because she felt I should at least know a thumbnail sketch of her life as we were getting more serious. Any details she offered were by her initiative. I didn't pry or ask for details. Not my style.

I was very impressed by her sensitivity about the matter. She was impressed that I never asked about it, and when it was time, I didn't pry.

In any case, anyone who suggests that she is somehow ruined for life because of a period where they gave into their lusts is off base. Take the person as you find them - they are the sum total of their life experience, and deal with the person they ARE, not with the person they WERE.

DO you have a problem with the English language? Or, do you just decipher what you WANT to, and toss out everything else I said?

I NEVER once have said, that someone is ruined for life, if they mess up. I am all for poeople turning their lives around, and once they do, they are to be honored, not shunned. And if you would READ my posts, that is what I said.

What I did say, was that I do not approve of that behavior from someone who is doing it NOW, And that I have a problem with those who justify such behavior from those who call themselves Christians. If my belief that a CHRISTIAN is not supposed to act that way makes me seem like a wacko, and such, then SO BE IT!!!!(Before you say, "who are you to judge", recall, that when Jesus forgave someone, he said--"go and SIN NO MORE".)

In any case, anyone who suggests that she is somehow ruined for life because of a period where they gave into their lusts is off base. Take the person as you find them - they are the sum total of their life experience, and deal with the person they ARE, not with the person they WERE.

Cool. Yeah, I do agree there although in my case, I'd like to know the past and I would fess up on my side in return so if anything comes up, we can deal with it together. I wouldn't want my spouse to suffer silently if there is a skeleton or a threat of one coming out of the closet, I would want to help her deal with it as I would like her to help me if the same thing would occur to me. I think that is one of the true marks of love and commitment, if something from the past comes up, yuns deal with it together and stay together.

BTW, hear anything from the Savage people? Michael Savage is "da man!" Glenn Beck is my second favorite.