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How Miers and Dover Intersect: 'Science' determines 'Law'
WP link to Miers Speech to T.B.Assn. ^ | 27 Oct 05 | gobucks

Posted on 10/27/2005 6:13:51 AM PDT by gobucks

"When science determines the facts, the law can effectively govern".

These are the most important words from Miers 1993 speech, and it is these words that are central to the Dover Intelligent Design trial.

The plantiffs are doing whatever possible to get the courts to defend their version of what 'science' means. The bottom line is that the real issue in both fights is over 'law'. Miers is a born again Christian from Texas.

The last time a Protestant Southern Conservative was seated on SCOTUS was at minimum 7 decades ago. Dover is about I.D. being taught in science classrooms, but the scientists state it is 'not science'.

Science determines facts. So the issue for lawyers in the end is 'who owns what "science" means? Scientists or Lawyers?

From the perspective of Mier's speech, which I'm thinking she actually did write, it is clear about the purpose of the 'Law'. Law is used to govern people. Law is used to govern little kids sitting in science class too.

Thus Darwin and SCOTUS and abortion all intersect with what 'law' means. It is clear Christain Conservatives are at a cross roads: either we will be represented in Gov't, at least peripherally via Miers and I.D. being taught as science, or the Lawyers will win, and Miers will be withdrawn and the plantiffs will muzzle the Dover school board.

Either way, the Christians will be getting more attention. The former promotes 'grace' thinking, and the latter will motivate Christians to different venues of action.

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TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: crevolist; darwin; dover; intelligentdesign; miers; scotus

1 posted on 10/27/2005 6:13:51 AM PDT by gobucks
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To: DaveLoneRanger; little jeremiah; wallcrawlr

This isn't talked about nearly enough in the press, but the intersection is plain to me.


2 posted on 10/27/2005 6:15:26 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: gobucks

Miers just withdrew. Doesn't matter now.


3 posted on 10/27/2005 6:21:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (I am beginning to think conservatism is buried somewhere under New Orleans' mud...)
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To: gobucks; Berosus; ValerieUSA
Thus Darwin and SCOTUS and abortion all intersect with what 'law' means. It is clear Christain Conservatives are at a cross roads: either we will be represented in Gov't, at least peripherally via Miers and I.D. being taught as science, or the Lawyers will win, and Miers will be withdrawn and the plantiffs will muzzle the Dover school board.

4 posted on 10/27/2005 6:55:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: RockinRight
Doesn't matter now

Where science determines the facts, the law can affectively govern. However, when science can not determine the facts and decisions vary based on religious beliefs, than government should not act.

Explain how this doesnt matter.

5 posted on 10/27/2005 6:56:58 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: wallcrawlr

It does, I was just referring to the fact that Miers withdrew.


6 posted on 10/27/2005 7:26:14 AM PDT by RockinRight (I am beginning to think conservatism is buried somewhere under New Orleans' mud...)
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To: gobucks

Interesting. But the problem was (and I am not the most Miers informed person here) that very little was actually known about her viewpoint.

But to have "scientists" making laws, and what is accepted (currently) as "scientific fact" determining laws, is extremely (searching for a word) - heinous. Science should be servant, not master.


7 posted on 10/27/2005 8:19:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: gobucks
Thus Darwin and SCOTUS and abortion all intersect with what 'law' means. It is clear Christain Conservatives are at a cross roads: either we will be represented in Gov't, at least peripherally via Miers and I.D. being taught as science, or the Lawyers will win, and Miers will be withdrawn and the plantiffs will muzzle the Dover school board.

Steeeeerike one!

8 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Junior

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9 posted on 10/28/2005 3:21:10 PM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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To: shuckmaster

Thanks.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 5:12:11 PM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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