White Sox Are Second Team in Second City

Yahoo News ^ | Oct. 13, 2005 | DON BABWIN

[toddlintown]

CHICAGO - Its most famous team is the one that cheated, the one forever branded the Black Sox. Its most enduring image may be the outfielder doused with beer while standing against the outfield wall, or maybe the two drunken fans running onto the field to attack a coach.

Then, again, it may be the decades of losing. Not the romantic kind tied to some mysterious curse, but the kind that comes with simply playing badly.

As the Chicago White Sox take on the Los Angeles Angels for the right to play in the World Series — something they haven't done since 1959 and haven't won since 1917 — they may be the most maligned or just plain overlooked team in baseball history.

[toddlintown]

An AP writer who almost gets it right.

[Clemenza]

The Sox are like the Mets: A team of REAL MEN overshadowed by a bunch of metrosexual pretty boys on the other side of town.

[beansox]

Real men dont require "rigging" in order to win a game.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

We don't need love - jsut seven more wins this year.

[beansox]

and some homecooking by the umps (rolling yees)

[Hegewisch Dupa]

oh my God - I forgot what verse in the Bible called it, but I do remember that one day, a sporting event would be decided by a poor call. I can't believe that day is upon us!!!

Look - AJ played smart alert ball and put us in position to win (Buerhle didn't hurt any either) when the break was handed our way. The Angels had to pitch a four-out inning - not an enviable task, but it's been done before.

[beansox]

cheating is cheating and the sox's walk away winners for a night but cheaters and liars for a lifetime.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

you're bordering on senseless - could you point out the cheating?

[socal_parrot]

Paging Arnold Rothstein.


I have no doubt that the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim And All of the Rest of the Metropolitan Area Except for Pacoima will overcome this blatant attempt by a tainted franchise to once again steel a championship and prevail.

[beansox]

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[b]Umpire Signs and Signals [/b]
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[b]Strike [/b]
Always signaled with the right hand, each umpire develops a personalized system for signaling the strike. Some do the traditional clenched fist; some indicate the strike out to the side with an open hand.

[b]Out[/b]
[b]The clenched right fist and a short hammered motion seem to be favored by most umpires.[/b]

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GO ANGLES!!!![/size][/color]

[beansox]

hmm, that didnt work....try this again!


Umpire Signs and Signals
http://www.corson.org/John/Hobbies/Baseball/Signs.html#Out!

Strike
Always signaled with the right hand, each umpire develops a personalized system for signaling the strike. Some do the traditional clenched fist; some indicate the strike out to the side with an open hand.

Out
The clenched right fist and a short hammered motion seem to be favored by most umpires.

WHITESOX ARE CHEATERS AND LIARS

[beansox]

pacoima LOL~

[Hegewisch Dupa]

o......kay.....

Here's how baseball works - the umpire makes decisions about what he sees in the field. Based on those decisions, the game continues. When the ump blew the drop third strike call, AJ had no idea of knowing he was wrong. AJ is NOT Steve Austin, the SIx Million Dollar Man guy I mean, not the wrestler, and had no bionic eye to see if the ball hit the ground or not. All he did know is that no one called him out. At that point he had an obligation to try for first - it was hardly "cheating" - it's how the game is played. No one, not even Christy Mathewson himself who would be asked by umpires (they didn't have four back in those days) if a runner was safe or out if he was in position to see it better than them, not even he would walk back to the dugout without being called out, just because the ball MIGHT have hit the dirt even though he had no idea at that time.

Learn how the game is played or at the very least HTML before invoking either, all right?

[Hegewisch Dupa]

Okay - scratch my HTML comment - good save on your part

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

You guys got lucky last year. It'll be another 90 years until you win another World Series.

[beansox]

even the batter knew he was struck as he proceeded to walk towards his own dugout and then turned around and walked over to first base. had he truly believed in heart of hearts that it was a live ball, why did he stop at first base?

[MikefromOhio]

WHITESOX ARE CHEATERS AND LIARS

It isn't on Pierzynski. It's on the ump and the catcher. virtually all HS and college catchers are taught to tag the running when your glove hits the dirt when catching the ball. That said I DO THINK he caught it on the fly. It was just a head's up play by the White Sox guy and the Umps jammed the Angels up.

Take your White Sox are cheaters crap somewhere else. It infantile.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

THe walking toward the dugout is legit - he just swung and missed and it took a second to realize he was never called out. I can see that. Stopping at first I can't dismiss right away - for the zillion times I've seen that play I can't recall where the ball was in relation to any Angels by the time he was at first. Too many beers by then for my memory to replay it perfectly. You raised a key question with that.

[beansox]

Try and stay on topic. Thanks in advance.

[beansox]

I saw the interviews, they were lying throught their teeth. Stuttering like cheating idiots.