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GOOGLE & SUN OFFICE: THE WORLD CHANGES THIS WEEK
Dirson.com ^ | 2005-10-04 | Dirson

Posted on 10/04/2005 10:47:35 AM PDT by N3WBI3

GOOGLE & SUN OFFICE: THE WORLD CHANGES THIS WEEK

[Oct 4, 2005] Google & Sun are to announce an Office Suite based on OpenOffice, and accesible via webbrowser, according to Jonathan Schwartz --President and COO of Sun Microsystems-- (the original title of his post was "The World changes this week").

It's probably the beginning of the WebOS, an Operating System based on the Web.

UPDATED: Some interesting links: :: Sun president: PCs are so yesterday :: Google Office wishlist: seamless Web storage, great built-in search, integration with other Google tools, a truly better user interface, true browser-based operation :: Some web-based Office tools: Kiko, Num Sum, Writely.

UPDATED 2: Google and Sun had agreed to a multi-year pact to distribute Sun's software technologies that offer a potential alternative to Microsoft's dominance of business users' desktops. These technologies are 'Java Desktop' and 'OpenOffice'.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: google; openoffice; opensource; sun
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To: N3WBI3

(1) Google is diversifying itself even further
(2) Sun is hooking itself up with the IT darling of the year
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The coolest best coders want to work for google, not M$


21 posted on 10/04/2005 11:24:56 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

We use MS office because it works, really good. If it didn't work, why would Open office copy everything including the name?


22 posted on 10/04/2005 11:25:11 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
...then use that money to provide "free" stuff to people?

Isn't that what taxes do? What's the difference?

23 posted on 10/04/2005 11:29:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Obviously, Google isn't the government, and shouldn't be allowed to play like it is.


24 posted on 10/04/2005 11:30:54 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Are you saying google should be able to avoid paying taxes by building their facilities on government land, then use that money to provide "free" stuff to people? Which is of course what they are attempting to do.

What do have against google wiring up San Francisco? It's  a great demonstration project that other cities and towns can learn from. That Comcast, the regional Bells, all cable companies must learn from. Hi speed access has been a rip off for far too long and google is about to kick their monopolistic pricing schemes to the curb.

GOOGLE + SAN FRAN = competition for the above monopolists. Screw 'em!

If San Francisco works out Google will make money wiring other cities. Google is not a charity. What's to prevent the cable companies and regional telecoms from doing the same?

25 posted on 10/04/2005 11:31:39 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Golden Eagle
Probably for the same reason Microsoft WORD come out after WORD perfect. Just because its a familiar name..
26 posted on 10/04/2005 11:34:33 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: dennisw

Unfair competition by being allowed to run their business from government property. Not surprised it's happening in SF either, of all places for liberal theories to be tested.


27 posted on 10/04/2005 11:36:48 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

So what! Open Office works good enough for most people and businesses. Office suites and operating systems are becoming commodities. Pushed by Linux of course

This commodititization is exactly why M$ concentrates a lot more on piracy and insulting schemes where they bleed you every few months for update/patches.


28 posted on 10/04/2005 11:37:49 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Golden Eagle
Unfair competition by being allowed to run their business from government property. Not surprised it's happening in SF either, of all places for liberal theories to be tested.

Cry me a river for monopolistic cable TV/internet companies and local Bells. Where I live I can only use only cable company because my town has granted them a  monopoly. This monopoly is supposed to be regulated but that's a lie. Their pricing is thievery

29 posted on 10/04/2005 11:40:55 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

You could use Direct TV like I do. But it would be wrong if Direct was given property on government satellites tax free. Which is what Google is trying out in SF.


30 posted on 10/04/2005 11:44:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
You could use Direct TV like I do. But it would be wrong if Direct was given property on government satellites tax free. Which is what Google is trying out in SF.

It called a public private partnership and the US abounds with them. The smart cable companies and smart Baby Bells will do the same as google is doing and give up their dreams of people paying outrageous prices for cable internet

31 posted on 10/04/2005 11:52:48 AM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: N3WBI3
But the nice part is if it runs through a web browser it will be portable, 100% portable.

With the potential to be 100% unavailable due to downtime AND 100% insecure.  The hackers will sailvate over the opportunity to compromise this data.

This may not be such a great idea.  I can't imagine why I would want this.

32 posted on 10/04/2005 12:25:27 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: softwarecreator
With the potential to be 100% unavailable due to downtime AND 100% insecure

Secure: See some of the holes in MS offices jetdb that have been there five months. Any app web based or not has that problem when you hook the system its on to a network.

Unavailable: True, but this risk could be mitigated with a good web architecture with clustering and fail over.

The hackers will sailvate over the opportunity to compromise this data.

I would never run it over the Internet, I would however run it privately on my intranet. but think about it people right now mail word documents via hotmail, gmail, and others.

33 posted on 10/04/2005 12:55:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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Looking at it from a business standpoint, it's good for everybody. This symbiotic relationship gives the cable/RoadRunner monopoly a serious run for its money--effectively making the industry cutthroat and lowering prices for the Joe Sixpack consumer.

Personally, as for the online WP software, I'd never use such an app on the Internet, but if it were on an intranet, probably.

Then again, the tech industry relies on innovation--regardless if we're proprietary or open-source. New products keeps tech alive--so much so that it's quite literally the lifeblood of the industry. It's good that OSS is leading the way in innovation--effectively keeping most everything functioning--even MS! ;)

34 posted on 10/04/2005 2:32:30 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: How can we stick our feet in our mouth today??)
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To: dennisw

So you'll be perfectly happy if/when Google is allowed further free use of government property, including not only government lands but eventually government satellites?


35 posted on 10/04/2005 4:04:39 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Have you had a saliva test lately?


36 posted on 10/04/2005 4:14:26 PM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: N3WBI3

To me, this sort of sounds like a solution looking for a problem.


37 posted on 10/04/2005 5:13:47 PM PDT by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: Golden Eagle
if/when Google is allowed further free use of government property

Their tax dollars (and ours) bought it

...but eventually government satellites?

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I for one welcome our Web-based overlords!

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Does every damned thing have to be a communist/hippy conspiracy against Mom, apple pie and McDonalds? You're starting to sound like an Art Bell guest. Yeesh!

38 posted on 10/04/2005 5:21:11 PM PDT by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: softwarecreator
With the potential to be 100% unavailable due to downtime AND 100% insecure. The hackers will sailvate over the opportunity to compromise this data.

This may not be such a great idea. I can't imagine why I would want this. I'm with you on this one. I can't see a compelling reason for it.

39 posted on 10/04/2005 5:26:39 PM PDT by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: N3WBI3
ROFL, n3wbie do you really think you addressed his concerns? I seriously hope not.

Secure: See some of the holes in MS offices jetdb that have been there five months. Any app web based or not has that problem when you hook the system its on to a network.

LOL, besides your laughable finger pointing at other products, how about the first requirement of security - local control. When your data is out on some foreign network you have absolutely no control over it, especially any real hope you can do anything yourself to prevent others from accessing it when those mechanisms are completely controlled by others. They could even lock YOU out, ROFL. Did this not even cross your mind?

Unavailable: True, but this risk could be mitigated with a good web architecture with clustering and fail over.

LMAO, did you not even think about the first required element of remote access, being network connectivity? This is hysterically funny, that you would immediately overlook such basic fundamentals, especially since you fashion yourself as someone capable of advising others on such matters.

40 posted on 10/04/2005 5:30:49 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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