Can Studying Turn Geeks into Casanovas?

ABC News ^

[Millee]

Go into almost any nightclub across the country and you'll see great-looking women and hungry men on the prowl, craving chemistry, connection — and a phone number. They're all looking for love. But the oldest game in the world can be brutal.

"Either you have it or you don't. Some guys are smooth, some guys aren't. That's it," said an attractive clubgoer in South Beach, Miami, named Kristi. "There's the losers and the winners." Maybe that's right, but there's also a movement afoot that says the art of seduction can be learned.

One of its students is Joel, a successful software engineer from Denver. He's clean-cut and nicely dressed, and has been practicing a scripted routine — learned in a three-day workshop that cost him nearly $2,000.

When "Primetime" co-anchor John Quinones asked him why he enrolled in the class, Joel said, "A woman would come up to me…and she'd be really interested, and I could see this, as soon as I opened my mouth, she… would suddenly start backing away, and [say] 'Oh, I got to go.'"

Joel studied at a workshop run by a man who calls himself "Mystery" — a kingpin in a new multi-million dollar industry where hundreds of so-called seduction experts promise love and romance to hapless Lotharios.

[Millee]

The ace in the deck of tricks is "the neg" — short for negative. Forget the compliments. Try lines like, "I've been here with you three minutes and it feels like an hour!"

I think "then leave" would be my first response. I was never good at dating either.

[RockinRight]

I'm a reasonably attractive guy but I've never been "Mr. Smooth" in any way...

[Tijeras_Slim]

Classes enrolling now.

[nevergore]

It won't help Pissant....

Hey Pissant....can you give us a few of your pickup lines?

NeverGore :^)

[apackof2]

Well talkin' the talk may help get the girl but can it keep her?

[Millee]

Ooooh..ooohh..that's a great idea for a thread!

Any Best/Worst pickup lines y'all want to share???

I had a guy tell me he'd let me buy him a beer if I would let him touch my breasts. (Costs me a lot of $$ that night!) ;-)

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Well talkin' the talk may help get the girl but can it keep her?

Pull up a chair, Baby, rap with the Blur. ;^)

[Horatio Gates]

Wow 2K for some nooky! I am not the definition of smooth by any stretch. Good thing the love of my life dug a guy in uniform! 8>)

[trisham]

When "Primetime" co-anchor John Quinones asked him why he enrolled in the class, Joel said, "A woman would come up to me…and she'd be really interested, and I could see this, as soon as I opened my mouth, she… would suddenly start backing away, and [say] 'Oh, I got to go.'"

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Joel Rifkin-is that you?

[najida]

LOL!

I hate dating.

hate hate hate it.

[day10]

2K? I wonder if I can get a scholarship?

LOL

[tuliptree76]

The ace in the deck of tricks is "the neg" — short for negative. Forget the compliments. Try lines like, "I've been here with you three minutes and it feels like an hour!"

So when guys insult me, they're actually attracted to me?

[Tijeras_Slim]

http://www.geekcheck.com/datehellm.htm

Tell your story to the world.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Hey, this article is about us! LOL!

[PaulaB]

(Costs me a lot of $$ that night!) ;-)

ROFL...

I had a guy sing me " Stairway to Heaven" with his acoustic guitar to impress me

though I love that song and it was a very sweet gesture.... one hour later he started tripping on something he had taken and started talking in a different voice...
I told his friends to take him home or I was calling the police... needless to say ..
we never hooked up!
I can't date the devil...

[najida]

EEEEKKKK!!!
I feel better now,
Thank you.

[carlr]

One of its students is Joel, a successful software engineer from Denver. He's clean-cut and nicely dressed, and has been practicing a scripted routine — learned in a three-day workshop that cost him nearly $2,000.

Two grand to try to fake a personality.
Noticed it said nothing about the woman's reaction when she finds out.

[Mr. Jeeves]

"Negs" work really well on beautiful, insecure women by lowering their self-esteem and making them try to re-validate themselves - up to and including offering sex. After becoming used to a steady stream of guys coming up and telling her how beautiful she is, the effect of an average-looking guy picking on her instead is shocking to her. Ulitimately, though, it is a one-night-stand tactic, and guys who use it are just as shallow and insecure as many of the women who fall for it.

"Mystery" is a genius - but he is also a pretty screwed up guy - like many of these "pickup artists". His tactics work like a charm, but they also start relationships off on the wrong foot. There's a way for men to use this stuff in a good, healthy way - but a lot of these guys are misusing it and hurting women. At times when reading their accounts, it's clear they are looking for revenge.

By all means read the new book "The Game" by Neil Strauss (referenced in the article) - it's brilliant, and will introduce you to a subculture you probably knew nothing about.

[pissant]

For a nominal fee, I'll give an FR course on how to woo the chickees. ;o)

[Woman on Caroline Street]

Geeks are hot. There is nothing sexier than a smart man. I'd take Ken Jennings if he lost all his money tomorrow.
I mean, he's so cute, I want to carry him in my pocket like a celebutante's pampered pooch.