This is an article that I thought that some of you might be interested in since we have been talking about NASA's new initiative. True this Was written awhile back, but it's still interesting for what can be done if only we would try.
For all those interested on why projects like X-33, Venturestar or any other SSTO (Single stage to Orbit) eventually fail in today's world without the use of Nuclear power from an engineering standpoint, I will direct you here:
The Cold Equations Of Spaceflight
The Freeper discusion on the topic:
The Cold Equations Of Spaceflight
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To: tricky_k_1972
I've been dreaming to see this for YEARS now.
2 posted on
09/23/2005 2:47:13 PM PDT by
prophetic
("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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3 posted on
09/23/2005 2:48:38 PM PDT by
tricky_k_1972
(Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
To: tricky_k_1972
The main obstacles to nuclear propulsion seem to be political rather than technical.
To: tricky_k_1972
9 posted on
09/23/2005 3:13:30 PM PDT by
playball0
To: tricky_k_1972
Damn, we should do this asap.
1000 ton payloads make a big interplantary craft in a hurry.
12 posted on
09/23/2005 3:18:52 PM PDT by
Centurion2000
((Aubrey, Tx) --- The government seems to be rewarding stupidity lately.)
To: tricky_k_1972
13 posted on
09/23/2005 3:22:05 PM PDT by
Sergio
(If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
To: tricky_k_1972
You said the 'N' word with SSTO.
Paging EPA.
Oh yes and Paging DHS
I'd page EDF but it's Friday and they are stoned already having a Bush blood orgy on the DU.
:)
17 posted on
09/23/2005 3:32:31 PM PDT by
JamminJAY
(This space for rent)
To: tricky_k_1972
He neglects discussing how to reenter his creation. His model, the Saturn V, wasn't designed for that task. He may have the power, but do his engines have the precise control needed for a
soft landing? What design compromises will be needed and how much mass will he have to add to make that work?
I love the proposed power source. Even if we can build a space elevator, perhaps the most efficient possible way to LEO, a power plant like this would improve getting around the solar system. If it can be made to work it surely creates better options for spaceflight. Much of the power plant testing could be done safely on ground. The main ground test limitation would be the effects of variable acceleration, from zero to a few G, on the plumbing of the thing.
To: tricky_k_1972
21 posted on
09/23/2005 3:45:53 PM PDT by
chaosagent
(Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
To: tricky_k_1972
Very Cool. I wish one would get built!
28 posted on
09/23/2005 3:57:36 PM PDT by
Paul_Denton
(Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
To: SirKit
30 posted on
09/23/2005 4:12:22 PM PDT by
SuziQ
To: KevinDavis
33 posted on
09/23/2005 4:31:28 PM PDT by
Las Vegas Dave
("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-ElRushbo quote.)
To: tricky_k_1972
Fission reactor with a leak, I like it. I would much rather see this built in orbit for fast (real fast) trips to the Moon and Mars and a rebuild of the Saturn 5 to boost the required hardware. Enviro weenies can't complain and the Saturn 5's safety record was 100%. Not to mention, the Saturn 5 was just cool.....
35 posted on
09/23/2005 5:36:58 PM PDT by
Decepticon
(The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years......)
To: tricky_k_1972
We definitely need a far more powerful engine, most likely nuclear, to do any of these far away trips. What we use now is simply not capable.
42 posted on
09/24/2005 7:18:52 AM PDT by
meema
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43 posted on
09/24/2005 8:24:36 AM PDT by
KevinDavis
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44 posted on
09/24/2005 8:24:45 AM PDT by
KevinDavis
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To: tricky_k_1972; RightWhale; NicknamedBob; Dawsonville_Doc; Army Air Corps; Dead Corpse; ...
a few years ago I stumbled across a project in Florida concerning a new type of solid-core nuclear hydrogen rocket.
I lost the link at some point.
IIRC - the core was to be 1m in diameter, made from a stack of ten fissile grids, each 10cm thk.
do you know anything about this project?
as to this article - I like it. Sounds worth pursuing aggressively.
49 posted on
09/24/2005 11:02:03 AM PDT by
King Prout
(19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
To: tricky_k_1972
How big a hole in the ground is this thing gonna leave behind it on liftoff?
86 posted on
09/25/2005 10:10:44 AM PDT by
solitas
(So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
To: tricky_k_1972
You may have an easier time building this through private industry, they could set up shop in some remote location (none US territory) that would allow nuclear testing to take place.
It is a great idea though.
87 posted on
09/26/2005 3:19:11 PM PDT by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
To: vannrox
92 posted on
09/27/2005 11:28:56 AM PDT by
SunkenCiv
(Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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