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New New Orleans: how about a Venice model?

Posted on 09/02/2005 12:51:35 PM PDT by orionblamblam

If New Orleans is rebuilt jsut where it is, it will always risk flooding. Well... how about they work *with* that? Instead of streets, have water-filled canals. Boats instead of cars. Homes and buildings on stone pillars to get 'em above the water, but surrounded *by* water.

Heck, might even spur on development of practical amphbious family cars.


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1 posted on 09/02/2005 12:51:37 PM PDT by orionblamblam
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We can import the gondoliers from Mexico.


2 posted on 09/02/2005 12:53:26 PM PDT by Brilliant
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There's already things swimming in the water that we don't want to think about.


3 posted on 09/02/2005 12:54:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (Load counter)
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Sounds good. Not sure how big Venice is and I doubt it has to support refineries, a huge port, etc. But definitely they need to figure something else out than "lets make the levee's 2 feet higher and get a few more pumps in here".

They're going to be starting from scratch on much of it anyway (at least the residential areas).


4 posted on 09/02/2005 12:54:48 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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Cool Idea.

Pump it out just long enough to doze it flat, salvage the trash and let it flood again.

It couldn't cost any more than the rebuild that will be needed.

It is at least nice to see comments on the MSM that most of the flooded houses will have to be bulldozed and not repaird. Reality is starting to sink in.


5 posted on 09/02/2005 12:54:57 PM PDT by konaice
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Uh, I think if you check into it, Venice probably isn't going to survive without more expense than New Orleans.


6 posted on 09/02/2005 12:55:58 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: RightWhale
There's already things swimming in the water that we don't want to think about.

Open to the sea, tide will flush that twice a day. Left as it is, it will stink for years.

7 posted on 09/02/2005 12:56:30 PM PDT by konaice
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most of the flooded houses will have to be bulldozed and not repaird

There's a lot of formerly valuable things in the houses. Antiques, etc. Some might be recovered, but most is already lost.

8 posted on 09/02/2005 12:58:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Load counter)
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Can't you just see the "gangsta-thug" set rollin' down the river in their chromed-out, "pimped" gondolas!


9 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:01 PM PDT by Drew68
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Uh, I think if you check into it, Venice probably isn't going to survive without more expense than New Orleans.

Yes, venice is sinking (or water levels rising). As is the entire Mississippi Delta.

But you can work with that too. Build your houses on driven piles that extend upward several tens of feet above (along side of) the building platform, and jack the buildings as required over time. Sewer / water are in pipes attached to the piles, with flexible risers.

Its do-able.

But is it worth it? Land is available elsewhere. America is a big country.

10 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:41 PM PDT by konaice
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To: orionblamblam

An idea worth entertaining.


11 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:55 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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Convert New Orleans into an American Riviera.


12 posted on 09/02/2005 1:03:45 PM PDT by syriacus (You can't fool Mother Nature. Why didn't New Orleans codes require lifeboats for each residence?)
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I was thinking the same thing the day after Kristina struck. I didn't want to suggest it because I'm sure that there will be a lot of government people and those with politically correct views who are going to suggest that nothing lesss than bringing back tho old New Orleans will do.

But, I'm glad I'm not the only one with the thought.

Another thought: perhaps the sunken part of NO should be forgotten about and rebuilding of a safer new New Orleans can be build on land that is safer and further away from the sea. Perhaps some incorporated land in the outskirts of NO can be used to build the new city.


13 posted on 09/02/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by adorno
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I've been saying this around the office for the past few days! I love the idea. Didn't Venice start out dry too? It sank, so they just went with it. Do the same in NOLA!

KEEP THE WATER, Move everything to the second (or third) floors!


14 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:14 PM PDT by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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There's a lot of formerly valuable things in the houses. Antiques, etc. Some might be recovered, but most is already lost.

Yes, probably, but the structures themselves are probably a total loss. Sheet rock more or less disolves in a day or two under water. Wireing, insulation, plumbing flooring, siding, roofs probably all gone.

BE VERY CAREFULL BUYING USED CARS IN THE COMEING MONTHS.

15 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:17 PM PDT by konaice
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Try Holland model. They want to keep what's left of their stuff, not build on stilts above it.


16 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:21 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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> But is it worth it? Land is available elsewhere. America is a big country.


Yes, but there's something to be said for "Nothing will stand in our way! We are Americans!"

Same logic as rebuilding the WTC as not some fru-fru memorial, but as bigger and badder Trumpified Twin Towers.

Besides: a Venice-ified New Orleans would, presumably, maintain much of the same charm as the old one (I'm told it had charm), while being somethign quite new. Locating New New Orleans up the river a little would be just another city.


17 posted on 09/02/2005 1:06:34 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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How would the women flash their breasts from a boat?? Bring in more fill from the Delta or move it.

Pray for W and New Orleans

18 posted on 09/02/2005 1:09:00 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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> Can't you just see the "gangsta-thug" set rollin' down the river in their chromed-out, "pimped" gondolas!

A brief Google search failed to bring up an image of the "Pimp of Da Seas" from Deuce Bigelow, European Gigelo.

One wonder what would happen to the crime rate in a water-logged NNO. Seems to me, criminal transport would be a bit harder... which would be a plus down there.


19 posted on 09/02/2005 1:09:11 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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One of the radio personalities was remarking that mold has already made recovery of the houses impossible in this short time. By the time they get that part of town pumped out and dried, many of the houses may not be standing anyway. The wood parts won't last long at all.


20 posted on 09/02/2005 1:09:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (Load counter)
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