Posted on 08/26/2005 6:31:03 PM PDT by Bush2000
Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels
Open source web browser Firefox has lost the momentum it has steadily gained since it was unleashed last year, according to Web analysts at Net Applications.
The online portal’s unique Hit List service reveals a slump in the Mozilla browser’s market share, falling from 8.7% to 8.1 % in July.
Coinciding with its demise, was the advance of Microsoft's IE that has gained some of the ground surrendered in June, climbing back from 86.6 % to 87.2% last month.
The revival for the dominant browser comes on the back of average monthly losses of between .5 to 1% for Redmond, as Firefox started to gain acceptance among a wider audience than just tech-savvy users.
When asked by Contractor UK whether Microsoft’s sudden gains were from the unveiling of a new IE, Net Applications said a re-launch tends revive industry interest, and could have bolstered Microsoft’s market share of the browser market.
When a company launches a new product, there is always renewed interest in what the company has produced and it would also be fair to say that this may have had an effect, said a member of the Hit List team.
Although, there have been browser issues with Windows 2000 in the news, so it is possible that again you may see a dip [in Microsoft’s market share]. Right now, people are looking for security and whenever there are issues with the security of one's system, they will use what they feel will be the most secure.”
Besides Net Applications, web developer site W3 Schools, confirms that adoption of Firefox is falling, just as IE is reaching its highest share of the market in 2005.
According to W3's data on specialist users, Microsoft IE (6) enjoyed a 67.9% share in July, improving to 68.1% in August matched against Firefox’s top share of 21% in May, which has now dropped to 19.8% for the last two months.
Observers noted that both sets of analysis concur that Microsoft’s loss, up until now, has been Firefox’s gain, but over the last month roles have reversed.
Security fears concerning Mozilla and its browser product have recently emerged, coinciding with Microsoft’s high-profile trumpeting of its new safer browser product (IE 7), complete with glossy logo.
Experts at Net Applications said they were surprised at Firefox’s sudden retreat, saying they expected a slow down before any decline.
Yet they told CUK: “Whenever there may be problems with security, there always is a decline with users changing browsers.”
Data from the Web analytics company is based on 40,000 users, gleaned from their global internet operations, prompting some commentators to question the so-called ‘global decline’ in the Firefox market share.
The Counter.com reportedly finds that between June and July, Firefox actually increased its share by two points, and overtook IE5 for the first time ever.
The Web Standard Project suggests webmasters should treat data from web analysis providers with caution, before rushing to make service changes.
So what can we conclude?” asks the WSP, a grass roots project fighting for open access to web technologies.
“Not much: Mozilla-based browsers are probably used by just under 10% of the web audience and their share is growing slowly. IE5.x is probably used by somewhat less than that and its share is declining slowly. IE6 is roughly holding steady.”
Meanwhile, Spread Firefox, which measures actual download rates of the browser, reports that it took just one month for the Mozilla Foundation’s showpiece to reach 80 million downloads in August – from its July total of 70 million.
At the time of writing, Firefox had been downloaded 80701444 times, meaning adoption rates of over 10m occurred one month after Net Applications says Firefox bolted in light of the dominant IE.
It's been so long since somebody used that particular newbie Net trick on one of my posts that I had to stop and think about it. Très amusing.
Got any real arguments for Internet Malware Explorer? I just got a laptop back that I cleansed of malware in February of this year. The user favors IE. It had 22 new Trojans and variants. ;-)
Absolutely. And that is why I think the suits are capable of choosing for their own business and not some techie.
Suits who would choose without consulting a tech don't deserve to be in charge and techs who don't bother to try and understand the business drivers make for poor architects..
What?
He also didn't know the difference between a "proof of concept" and an actual exploit just a few months ago, so take your best guess...
BS, you're just trying to cover for the fact you support these malware authors releasing exploit code without the vendor having a chance to develop a patch. Don't even deny it, here it is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434798/posts
Despicable, obviously you're one of those guys that try to claim you're a "security expert", when you really support the hackers, if not one yourself.
Keep dreaming from the trenches. Your BS wouldn't last a day at the top.
" What?"
The thread was 2 years ago or so.
I'm glad you pointed to that thread - it's a classic example of your and B2K's dissembling, misrepresenting, and flat out making stuff up.
"Despicable, obviously you're one of those guys that try to claim you're a "security expert", when you really support the hackers, if not one yourself."
Namecalling and misrepresenting again.
Good going.
The Admin Mod even chewed you out for it!
To: Golden Eagle
KNOCK IT OFF!
133 posted on 07/02/2005 12:53:26 PM MDT by Admin Moderator
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434798/posts?page=133#133
I'm sure you'll point to the halfhearted "You too," that I earned... but again, I'll let the readers of this thread read and make up their own minds.
"Let's put it in perspective. Every dollar that the Red Chinese and North Korean military saves by using software written by foreigners can be diverted to buying new weapons, increasing the size of their army, supplying their troops, boosting their defenses, etc."
They PIRATE Windows, too.
Now answer my previous question to you.
There are those who are so far into Microsoft that they will will deploy Windows ISA instead of a decent product such as Raptor, Sidewinder or IOS/PIX Firewall. For the Microsoft places I've worked, for the most part they don't use ISA because the old-time networking guys refused to use Microsoft to run their network infrastructure while the rest of the Microsoftie crowd complained.
Added value at a cost.
Or save your taxpayer money. They way these government people throw money at Microsoft without thinking (and without going through the usual competitive bid system) is fraud.
Whoever suggested they don't consult with their tech. I'm sure most get their info passed up from their IT management...which gets it from a tech. And then a business decision is made. It just so happens more people choose Windows. I'm just saying don't call the suits stupid for that. Instead learn how to compete and win the suits over. Calling them dumb won't win them over.
So you just proved my point. The suits really do know what they are doing.
Note to self: Don't discuss anything else with adam_az. He'll cry to mommy when he loses.
Makes you wonder if anyone was listening when Semour Cray talked about chickens and oxen.
And the good news for the ChiComs is that you OSS guys will probably write the software for them...
Don't be so dense. No matter what OS they run it on, the actual simulation software is extremely complex and not available. And Windows Cluster Edition is coming soon -- remember, it's okay if China has nukes as long as Bill made money off it. But if they did get the software, you'd fine as long as China is running MS NukeTest instead of PHP Nuke (oh, wait, that doesn't have anything to do with nukes).
Actually, that makes it sound worse. Microsoft's about 17 year-old OS with hundreds of millions of dollars of development behind it is catching up with a 14 year-old OS started by some student in his dorm.
antiRepublicrat for Attorney General. He'll fix all the stupid gov't workers that buy Microsoft.
LOL! You know better than everyone. If you want to say OSS is better now for business & gov't then make your argument. But if you're saying that choices in the past were all fraud and than M$ should never be chosen over OSS then you obviously have your blinders a little to close to your eyes.
Microsoft is number one for one reason. They provide the best value.
And I never said that. But almost all OS and enterprise purchased in government tend to be done without much competitive thought. Now it's Microsoft, they buy it all the time without even thinking about alternatives, and that is not right. The government does this with hardware, too, almost exclusively buying Dell where better alternatives exist. Prime example, one Windows system with a need for a dual-proc box with at least 32GB RAM, but they buy Dell, which costs a LOT more money than an Opteron-based one that can hold that much, and will even be faster. I could get a quad Opteron and still not get close to the Dell's price.
What I want is for people to do actuall cost/benefit analyses before purchasing IT products, not just buy Microsoft because that's what they're used to or, to hijack the old IBM saying, "Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft."
They know what they're doing because they try to create an all-Microsoft IT infrastructure? Well, even trying to do that right there shows they don't know what they're doing. And this isn't Microsoft-specific, it applies to any vendor.
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