Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels

Contractor UK ^ | Aug 22, 2005 | Contractor UK

[ShadowAce]

What is a "tab", and what advantage is there to "tabs" in IE7 vs 6? I assume there is just one open browser with "tabs" but I do not see the difference.

The biggest advantage I see is that you don't have multiple browser processes running. I can browse to multiple sites (I actually have three home pages), without burning up system resources.

[exnavychick]

As long as you guys keep handing over shovelware to the ChiComs for free -- and thus alleviating them of any need to spend hard currency on infrastructure and instead prop up their military -- you're Commie sympathizers...

Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but the way I read it, you're telling me all Firefox users are commie sympathizers? Get a grip. It's a freakin' BROWSER, for cryin' out loud. Wouldn't hurt MS any to have a little competition, before they cannibalize and then crush them.

I can't remember the poster who said it, but like them...I use Firefox, I like it, but I don't expect to see it steal any significant market share from MSIE...at least not anytime soon.

[clyde asbury]

I can't remember the poster who said it, but like them...I use Firefox, I like it, but I don't expect to see it steal any significant market share from MSIE...at least not anytime soon.

Nicely put. If you're like me, if you see a browser you like better than Firefox, then you will switch.

[Clara Lou]

Two features Opera has I wish Firefox would adopt are the ability to move the tab arrangement, and to ...
Have you checked extensions? I can drag tabs. I can place them at the top or the bottom of my screen. Is that what you mean?

[exnavychick]

Nicely put. If you're like me, if you see a browser you like better than Firefox, then you will switch.

Yup, it's all about performance, quality, etc, and how a browser performs to my standards. I'm no brand-junkie. :)

[krb]

That's something like 7% of its share though. If you are a software operation looking for market penetration, a loss of 7% of your market share is a big hit, especially if you were gaining share regularly prior to the loss.

[chronic_loser]

IE blows. We will bury you.

Too funny!!! Could you put a pic with this of Kruschev banging his shoe on the table?

[TechJunkYard]

You have to buy the operating system first.

Well, duh. They're not gonna run very well on any other platform, are they?

But the products are free. I believe you can download the latest IE from a Micr'soft web site.

[Myrddin]

You have some serious issues, son, if you are reinstalling Windows five times on the same machine and are not a software developer.

Son? I'm 49. If you're 75 or older then that form of address is appropriate. I have 10 Windows boxes, 6 QNX boxes, 5 Linux (Fedora, Debian and Slackware) boxes and an HP5555 PDA for WinCE development around here. The only troublesome box in the house belongs to my youngest son. It is HIS misbehavior with HIS computer that is the root of the problem. He did in fact upgrade his motherboard to a 3 GHz P4 HT processor, so a new motherboard was an element of the problem. He is constantly installing the latest high performance, networked gaming software. Always on the bleeding edge of disaster. Most of the computers in the house are used for software development and run rock solid.

I've been a software developer since 1980. The only time I've experienced a problem with Windows was when I installed an early beta of NT4.0. I had to wipe it off the disk when the retail release hit the shelf as the beta was intentionally configured to not be upgradable to the retail release. No big deal. The usual load, patch, reboot ritual.

[for-q-clinton]

I believe IE can open . . . . what is it? . . . . exactly one tab after all these years.

Hmmmm....I just opened 11 tabs in IE. If you want to know how, let me know. If you're just trolling don't bother.

[for-q-clinton]

But again, it just proves what I said - when the people who know what they're doing make decisions, they CHOOSE apache. When the suits get involved, it's usually IIS.

Translation: When someone that doesn't know anything on making a profit or trying to reduce costs gets to choose--they chose Apache. When the people that are educated on how to figure out the best value for their business and get a return on investment makes the decision--they choose windows.

Thank you for stating the obvious flashbunny. And now we know why Windows is #1.

[for-q-clinton]

If you want to experience tabs on IE now, download the MSN toolbar. It also comes with a killer desktop search engine.

Although, I'm not a big fan on tabs. I end up opening more IE windows. I do see where some people would prefer tabs, I'm just an old dog that can't learn new tricks I guess.

[HolgerDansk]

Hilarious, considering the benchmarks posted above show IE and Opera smoking Firefox on performance.

That's old data. The gecko rendering engine was kinda pokey a year ago, now it's comparable.

[HolgerDansk]

All this "software is communism" crap is ludicrous.

It's misguided thinking. Same as the old "What's good for GM is good for America" during the 60s and 70s. Problem is, that kind of thinking gets you into trouble. Competition is good. Look what the Mozilla Foundation has done for Microsoft: forced it to update a product that they hadn't put anything into for years. Would you rather that Microsoft went the way of GM?

Incidentally, BSD Unix was a product of ARPA/DARPA funding and DOD ideas. Hard to get more American than that.

[yhwhsman]

Have you checked extensions?

Not lately, I'll have to go check the newer ones out. Thanks.

[antiRepublicrat]

FYI Chinese Red Flag is based on Red Hat.

You've FYI'd us about a hundred times, so I think we remember. But as I told Bush, they put money into it and re-released it, so go ahead and download and take advantage of China's IP "giveaway." With OSS, it goes both ways.

[antiRepublicrat]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but the way I read it, you're telling me all Firefox users are commie sympathizers? Get a grip. It's a freakin' BROWSER,

The Microsofties here believe it's all about the OSS crowd stealing our precious fluids.

 

_{Sorry the about arcane, but absolutely apt, movie reference}

[antiRepublicrat]

Translation: When someone that doesn't know anything on making a profit or trying to reduce costs gets to choose--they chose Apache. When the people that are educated on how to figure out the best value for their business and get a return on investment makes the decision--they choose windows.

In the words of Willy Wonka, "Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it."

IIS 6 finally got some of the capabilities of Apache (like application pools, very useful when you're running many applications on the same server), and the IIS coming with Vista will get some more (like modularity, also very useful). Yeah, IIS is better when it's still playing catch-up.

[for-q-clinton]

When you say "better" it's all relative. In terms of overall support and cost, yes it is better and that's why teh suits choose it over Apache.

[Bush2000]

Do you freak out when you're channel surfing and run across Hogan's Heroes by accident? Cuz Nazism is no joke, no sir...

There's a world of difference between a sitcom and a bunch of OSS Commie sympathizers who think it's amusing that their support is helping build out our enemies' computing infrastructure. ..