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Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels
Contractor UK ^ | Aug 22, 2005 | Contractor UK

Posted on 08/26/2005 6:31:03 PM PDT by Bush2000

Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels

Open source web browser Firefox has lost the momentum it has steadily gained since it was unleashed last year, according to Web analysts at Net Applications.

The online portal’s unique Hit List service reveals a slump in the Mozilla browser’s market share, falling from 8.7% to 8.1 % in July.

Coinciding with its demise, was the advance of Microsoft's IE that has gained some of the ground surrendered in June, climbing back from 86.6 % to 87.2% last month.


The revival for the dominant browser comes on the back of average monthly losses of between .5 to 1% for Redmond, as Firefox started to gain acceptance among a wider audience than just tech-savvy users.

When asked by Contractor UK whether Microsoft’s sudden gains were from the unveiling of a new IE, Net Applications said a re-launch tends revive industry interest, and could have bolstered Microsoft’s market share of the browser market.

When a company launches a new product, there is always renewed interest in what the company has produced and it would also be fair to say that this may have had an effect, said a member of the Hit List team.

Although, there have been browser issues with Windows 2000 in the news, so it is possible that again you may see a dip [in Microsoft’s market share]. Right now, people are looking for security and whenever there are issues with the security of one's system, they will use what they feel will be the most secure.”

Besides Net Applications, web developer site W3 Schools, confirms that adoption of Firefox is falling, just as IE is reaching its highest share of the market in 2005.

According to W3's data on specialist users, Microsoft IE (6) enjoyed a 67.9% share in July, improving to 68.1% in August matched against Firefox’s top share of 21% in May, which has now dropped to 19.8% for the last two months.

Observers noted that both sets of analysis concur that Microsoft’s loss, up until now, has been Firefox’s gain, but over the last month roles have reversed.

Security fears concerning Mozilla and its browser product have recently emerged, coinciding with Microsoft’s high-profile trumpeting of its new safer browser product (IE 7), complete with glossy logo.

Experts at Net Applications said they were surprised at Firefox’s sudden retreat, saying they expected a slow down before any decline.

Yet they told CUK: “Whenever there may be problems with security, there always is a decline with users changing browsers.”

Data from the Web analytics company is based on 40,000 users, gleaned from their global internet operations, prompting some commentators to question the so-called ‘global decline’ in the Firefox market share.

The Counter.com reportedly finds that between June and July, Firefox actually increased its share by two points, and overtook IE5 for the first time ever.

The Web Standard Project suggests webmasters should treat data from web analysis providers with caution, before rushing to make service changes.

So what can we conclude?” asks the WSP, a grass roots project fighting for open access to web technologies.

“Not much: Mozilla-based browsers are probably used by just under 10% of the web audience and their share is growing slowly. IE5.x is probably used by somewhat less than that and its share is declining slowly. IE6 is roughly holding steady.”

Meanwhile, Spread Firefox, which measures actual download rates of the browser, reports that it took just one month for the Mozilla Foundation’s showpiece to reach 80 million downloads in August – from its July total of 70 million.

At the time of writing, Firefox had been downloaded 80701444 times, meaning adoption rates of over 10m occurred one month after Net Applications says Firefox bolted in light of the dominant IE.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
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To: Petronski

yeah, he's just sooooo cool that way.

Bush2000: Free republic's own fonzie.

Or is it potsie???


161 posted on 08/26/2005 10:43:35 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: Golden Eagle

Liar.


162 posted on 08/26/2005 10:44:08 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: thecabal

Communism is hilarious. What better way to kill 65 million people...


163 posted on 08/26/2005 10:45:06 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: thecabal
The banners are from Mozilla.org, but they aren't promoting communism...

That may be your opinion, but there is little backing it other than your words, which haven't added up to much else so far.

At worst they are ripping off the old Soviet propaganda poster style.

At worst? LOL, what other explanation do you have?

created by a lone nut...

Mozilla.org is a lone nut?

164 posted on 08/26/2005 10:45:58 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000
Since I switched to Firefox last year I no longer have to run spyware scans, they always come back clean.

Except for when I open IE by mistake.

Microsoft had a good ride, but they no longer make the best product, just the easiest. It's good to have choices.

165 posted on 08/26/2005 10:46:53 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: Bush2000
2. Have you tried running the IE executable directly?

Just tried it.

Nada. Nothing happens.

And yeah, I d/led the latest defs.
166 posted on 08/26/2005 10:48:08 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: flashbunny

Obviously, names don't bother me, since it's all you boys ever have when you lies get exposed. Calling me the liar is especially funny, little bunny.


167 posted on 08/26/2005 10:48:42 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: thecabal
No I don't. The banners are from Mozilla.org, but they aren't promoting communism, now are they? At worst they are ripping off the old Soviet propaganda poster style. BFD, that proves nothing. Your big "smoking gun" was created by a lone nut.

Just a few posts ago, you were denying that there was any connection between those pics and Mozilla. Now, you're retreating with your tail between your legs, and trying to sell the BS that there's no connection between the posters and Communist ideology?!? Puh-lease. Spare us the apologia...
168 posted on 08/26/2005 10:48:57 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: thecabal
It was also done as a joke for an anniversary party..
169 posted on 08/26/2005 10:51:09 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Golden Eagle

ok, backpeddling, dishonest, liar. "you see I was talking about this, and it was obvious that you were talking about that too, even though you didn't say it, becuase I knew you were talking about that, even though you never mentioned it and the graph had nothing to do with what I was talking about. So there!"

You are so childish and dishonest it's not even funny anymore. If bringing down the collective IQ of the board was something they could ban you for, you'd have been gone a long time ago.


170 posted on 08/26/2005 10:52:51 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: N3WBI3
done as a joke

Creating posters and online banners that indicate you're a communist is supposed to be funny? Exactly to who? I can't think of anyone who would think it was funny myself. Can you tell me why it would be funny, to anyone, for any reason?

171 posted on 08/26/2005 10:54:09 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Son, let me spell it out for you in easy-to-digest English. Try to follow along.

This image

was created by a lone webmaster who is not affilated with Mozilla.org other than being a big, commie fan. As far as the other images go, show me where they prove that mozilla==communist.

172 posted on 08/26/2005 10:56:54 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: flashbunny

Face it little bunny, you never once mentioned IIS, search the thread. You said Microsoft, and Apache runs on Microsoft operating systems. It's one of your stupid little tricks we saw through a long time ago. Your little bag of tricks is long used up, I suggest you go find somewhere else where your nonstop BS might occasionally fly. It's obviously not working here, never has.


173 posted on 08/26/2005 10:59:18 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Creating posters and online banners that indicate you're a communist is supposed to be funny? Exactly to who? I can't think of anyone who would think it was funny myself. Can you tell me why it would be funny, to anyone, for any reason?

Communism. 65 million dead customers served (tm)
174 posted on 08/26/2005 10:59:20 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: flashbunny
Still waiting for a response to #116
175 posted on 08/26/2005 11:01:07 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Golden Eagle
Creating posters and online banners that indicate you're a communist is supposed to be funny? Exactly to who?

People who get to watch fecal throwing troll monkeys flip out about them on FR for one..

176 posted on 08/26/2005 11:02:57 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: thecabal
Son...

LMAO!

So is it just "one nut" running Mozilla.org, or is it more than that? Or are you denying those are their ads? Wouldn't surprise me, of course.

177 posted on 08/26/2005 11:05:53 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Face it little bunny, you never once mentioned IIS, search the thread. You said Microsoft, and Apache runs on Microsoft operating systems.

He said MS web server, which is of course *IIS* You took that to mean Operating system which nobody who works with web servers would do. If I said Sun's web server nobody would think Solaris (well nobody with a clue to spare), they would think SunOne.. If he said MS browser would he still be talking about windows? does MS database refer to windows? does MS office suite refer to windows?

178 posted on 08/26/2005 11:06:38 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3
People who get to watch fecal throwing troll monkeys flip out about them on FR for one..

Not to mention that I'm a little worried that said monkeys can't take Gen. Ripper's diatribe as a joke. Obviously hits a little too close to the personal beliefs. Purity of essence!

179 posted on 08/26/2005 11:07:47 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: N3WBI3

So you like standing in constant defense of communists, think it's a blast, a great way to spend the day (or every day, in your case).


180 posted on 08/26/2005 11:08:28 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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