Firefox's 'retreat' ensures Microsoft excels

Contractor UK ^ | Aug 22, 2005 | Contractor UK

[blowfish]

But Internet explorer is just plain better and faster than the various forms that Netscape has morphed into.

Ha. Haha. Bwahahaha...Oh man you're killing me! Haha. ha.
Oh my god, I think you might be serious....

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

IE blows and swallows. I use Firefox and I absolutely love it.

[Golden Eagle]

Wow, what incredibly "innovative" technology they have... /SARCASM

Damn that WAS sarcastic. Hilarious the cloners are now working on a copy of .NET, gonna laugh my ass when they get hit with patent suits.

[Bush2000]

Well, if you're going on the basis of rendering speed, then you probably want to go with Opera or IE.

Windows speed chart

Browser name	Cold start	Warm start	Rendering CSS	Rendering table	Script speed	Multiple images	History
Avant 1.1	10.09	2.90	1.31	1.38	32	2.74	43
Clue 4.2	5.80	3.17	-	-	-	20.49	-
Escape 4.82	9.75	6.88	5.07	2.67	391	3.83	194
Escape 5.1.4	15.94	11.03	3.71	3.04	354	3.54	153
Firefox 1.0	11.54	2.52	1.81	1.48	23	2.05	41
Firefox 1.0 (Moox)	20.33	2.78	3.18	1.57	26	2.84	41
ICEbrowser 6	15.44	7.10	1.84	1.08	139	2.30	131
Internet Explorer 5.0	5.25	3.11	0.81	1.08	31	2.25	34
Internet Explorer 6.0	6.99	1.77	1.32	1.33	60	2.32	32
Internet Explorer 7.0 (b1)	6.19	2.44	1.58	1.28	40	2.32	34
K-Meleon 0.8.2	5.92	2.67	2.81	1.73	-	2.60	40
Maxthon 1.1	11.09	3.24	1.36	1.60	63	2.70	32
Mozilla 1.0	9.54	2.81	21.80	1.46	95	2.04	58
Mozilla 1.8	11.94	2.48	1.49	1.39	23	2.00	40
NetFront 3.2	9.19	8.32	2.42	7.47	65	7.71	233
Netscape 4.77	9.33	1.84	16.60	2.34	80	2.08	38
Netscape 0.5.6 (Br)	24.67	13.54	1.43	1.77	29	2.34	55
Opera 6.03	3.74	1.66	0.75	0.72	64	2.94	15
Opera 7.54	4.90	2.40	0.86	1.19	19	1.87	21
Opera 8.0	3.66	2.38	0.92	1.17	13	1.78	15
WebTV Viewer 2.8	7.34	5.04	13.24	5.58	41	5.84	154

[Myrddin]

I have XP SP2 on my company laptop. All of the hardware that I own is Windows 2000 with all the latest patches applied. The "activation" process of XP is annoying. I purchased two copies of XP Home to service the computers that my kids use. My youngest son loads alls sorts of games on his machine. That trashes the OS fairly frequently. Now we have to waste time on the phone getting "activated" each time it happens again. The Windows 2000 machines are rock solid, trouble free. No games. Lots of software development in C/C++/C# and Java.

[kevao]

Demise was perhaps a bit strong. But it portends a foul wind for the FireFox advocates, who had expected FireFox to take away significant market share from IE (and thus tip Web standards)...

Yeah, just a bit. Call me a throwback, but words used to mean things. If/when Firefox's market share drops to 0%, what word is left to describe that? (Of course, that won't ever happen; I'm a fairly recent, and satisfied, convert and don't plan on going back to IE.)

[Hank Rearden]

Well, nobody except the >80% of the world's computer users.

No, that's not true. 99% of that 80% are totally ignorant of what they have, why they have it, whether it's any good and the fact that it attracts all that spyware and virii like flypaper. They just use whatever was on their desktop when they got their computer.

So they sure as hell won't care.

The only people who will care are the diehards who actually prefer IE for whatever reason.

i.e. Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and maybe their wives. That's it.

[Petronski]

The sound you hear is me not caring...

You care so little, you took the time to post about how little you care.

[Psycho_Bunny]

I've used IE7 Beta on an XP machine.

I don't know if that means they'll be releasing a stand alone version but, I suspect they will, to compete with FireFox.

[Golden Eagle]

[Bush2000]

The "activation" process of XP is annoying...Now we have to waste time on the phone getting "activated" each time it happens again.

Uh, hold it a sec. Are you still using dial-up -- or are you saying that you need to call MS Support to activate? Because I've rebuilt a particular machine several dozen times and used the same activation key without having to call MS Support. Never had an issue getting rejected for activation.

[Bush2000]

You care so little, you took the time to post about how little you care.

Yeah, with my speedy connection, it cost me a few seconds. Oh, the inconvenience...

[Hank Rearden]

So now we're commies if we use something far superior to that virus-transportation-system piece of crap from MS?

Well, let me just say this about that: We will bury you.

[Bush2000]

99% of that 80% are totally ignorant of what they have, why they have it, whether it's any good and the fact that it attracts all that spyware and virii like flypaper. They just use whatever was on their desktop when they got their computer.

You claim to know 99% of the 80% ?!? Dude, you're hilarious. Keep the comedy coming...

[Psycho_Bunny]

This thread certainly brought out a few people who think they know what they're talking about.

Simple fact of the matter is that if someone told me they got a virus using IE, I wouldn't hire them to work on my network because they've defined themselves as an enthusiast, not a professional.

[js1138]

Because I've rebuilt a particular machine several dozen times and used the same activation key without having to call MS Support. Never had an issue getting rejected for activation.

I haven't hit the several dozen mark yet, but I've reactivated a bunch of XP installations with no phone call.

The only time I had to phone in was when I moved a license from one machine to another. They accepted my situation without question.

[Golden Eagle]

Chose your side, and live with it.

[Golden Eagle]

CHOOSE! Damn that bunny, got me mixed up when he did it first.

[N3WBI3]

Hes being awefully quiet on that one..

[an amused spectator]

IE *is* the Web standard.

Many adhered to the "flat earth" standard for decades. IE juat sucks.