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Survivor - Guatemala: The Official Thread
Various Websites and my fertile brain | August 11, 2005 | Cuz_it_aint_their_money

Posted on 08/11/2005 12:17:58 PM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money

Hidden deep in the rainforests of Central America, stand the ruins of an ancient civilization that once prospered, and then vanished. These were the Maya people, and this is the country of Guatemala.

These stunning cities of the past stand as clues to a mystery thousands of years old. While Europe was in the dark ages, it was the Maya who harnessed the knowledge of the stars, and the celestial movements, to create a mystical union of man, nature and the gods. It was a world of great kings, elaborate ceremonies, fierce battles, and even human sacrifice.

18 Survivors will be marooned within this mysterious and rugged terrain.

For the first time, the castaways will actually live within the ruins of a vanished civilization, and they will be forced to embrace the ancient Maya lifestyle.

Join us as the adventure continues with:

PREMIERS THURSDAY
SEPTEMBER 15, 2005
8:00PM ET/PT


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bestshowever; easilyentertained; funwithkeywords; guatemala; idiotbox2005; mediawhores; shallowminds; survivor; terriblethingtowaste; trashtv; wgas
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To: MotleyGirl70
You know that, I know that, but Cindy doesn't.

Cindy starring in "Clueless in Guatemala".

1,901 posted on 12/08/2005 9:21:15 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

WE JUST REPLAYED THE VIDEO PROMOS - RAFE WINS THE NEXT IMMUNITY! That means Danni should be safe and Lydia or Steph (hopefully)is gone.


1,902 posted on 12/09/2005 5:08:19 AM PST by MomwithHope
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To: MomwithHope
You would not have gotten voted off after giving away 4 cars and sacrificing yours and you would have made points with the guys on the jury too.

I don't know how much "points" would be made with the jury, as they would look at it like they did when Jamie gave up his food reward challenge - simply playing the game trying to curry favor.

However, it definitely would have kept her around for one more vote. Keeping the car was the kiss of death. It completely alientated Rafe, and IMO, he's running the show right now. Had she given everyone a car, she would have outlasted Steph, but I don't know that it would have gotten her into the final two.
1,903 posted on 12/09/2005 8:06:20 AM PST by Texas2step (<><)
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To: EmilyGeiger

Albert became a drug addict? I'm glad I stopped watching long before that.


1,904 posted on 12/09/2005 9:41:50 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: EmilyGeiger

Albert became a drug addict? I'm glad I stopped watching long before that.


1,905 posted on 12/09/2005 9:41:51 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: EmilyGeiger

I think if Danni makes it to the final 2, she wins. She didn't backstab anyone, and she kept with her original alliance. Plus, she somehow managed to get that far when the odds were against her.

I'm sure she'd beat any of the ones left in the final 2.


1,906 posted on 12/09/2005 9:44:37 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: 24Karet; Alice in Wonderland; alisasny; agarrett; A knight without armor; ...

Good Afternoon FReepers and FReeperettes! What follows is a recap of last night’s show, so…

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The Final Four
Danni, Lydia, Rafe, StepheME

The Jury:
Bobby Jon, Jamie, Gary, Judd, Cindy

The Losers:
Jim, Morgan, Brianna, Brooke, Blake, Margaret, Brian, Amy, Brandon

By the way, I still have some more driveway and sidewalk to shovel out, (we got about 9 inches of snow last night, so it looks like we’re gonna have a White Christmas! YIPPEE!) So I’m gonna have to just cut and paste the Recap from the SeeBE website. Sorry!

CURSED!
Cindy Driven Out
On night 36, the long-standing SURVIVOR "Car Curse" struck again, and Cindy Hall, the 31-year-old zookeeper from Naples, Florida, became the fifth person to join the Jury and the fourteenth person voted out of SURVIVOR: GUATEMALA. Cindy became the latest in a long string of Survivors who won the car reward but did not win the game. As she grabbed her torch, Cindy jabbed, "Thanks, guys. I'll be thinking of you when I see the stars through the sunroof of my new car."

OUT OF THE LOOP
After Tribal Council on night 33, the final five Survivors returned to camp, having just voted Judd off. Cindy was perplexed over not knowing about the plot to vote out Judd. She confessed, "I thought we were voting out Lydia, but apparently I was not privileged to the information. After her tribemates' numerous attempts to console her, Cindy added, "Judd's gone and I'm still here, so I am just going to have to deal with it."

ONE OF THE GIRLS
On the morning of day 34, with Judd the bully gone from the camp, the remaining five seemed more relaxed and playful. "It's kinda like the cool kid left the class, and we can be a little bit more dorkier, a little bit more fun," noted Rafe. Realizing he was the last remaining male, Rafe referred to the women as "Rafe's Angels." The close bond with the women was confirmed when Lydia said she considered him "just one of the girls." Feeling confident about his connection with the four remaining women, Rafe added, "I have a close personal friendship with all four of the people left in this game, and that's the thing I hope gets me to the end."

TREE MAIL
When Rafe and Danni went to get Tree Mail, they discovered a car key. Thinking that the upcoming Reward would be a new car, Rafe speculated, "One of us is going to own a car today!" Stephenie hoped it was her lucky day, noting, "I personally have never had my own car. So I am in desperate need of a car."

REWARD CHALLENGE: SECOND CHANCE
When the tribe arrived for the Challenge, their suspicions were confirmed when they saw host Jeff Probst standing next to a Pontiac Torrent. Jeff explained that the Reward would be a new car and a BBQ feast with an overnight stay at an archeologist camp.

The rules of the game: players must race across a balance beam and untie three sets of macanas. The first three players move on to the second round. At the second stage, the players toss the macana to break a clay tile. The first two to break the tile move on to the final stage. The third stage was a small Maya calendar puzzle. After solving the puzzle, the players must jump into the primitive wooden cart, chop the rope and race to the finish.

During the first stage, the Survivors struggled to keep their balance while trying to untie the macanas. Stephenie, Lydia and Rafe fell from the balance beam and had to start over, but Danni, Cindy and Stephenie crossed the finish line first. In the second stage, Cindy and Stephenie smashed the tiles to advance. In the last stage, both Stephenie and Cindy struggled with the puzzle, but Cindy finished first, hopped in the cart, chopped the rope and rode to an easy victory.

THE CAR CURSE
Moments later, Jeff Probst announced, "In ten seasons of SURVIVOR, the person who has won the car Reward has never, ever won the game." Dubbing this the "Car Curse," Jeff then offered Cindy a chance to break the curse, presenting a dilemma. She could give up taking the car herself and instead give a new Pontiac Torrent to each of her tribemates. Suddenly, four additional Pontiac Torrents convoyed into the Challenge area and were greeted by gasps and looks of disbelief. With an excruciating decision before her, Cindy took several minutes to weigh the pros and cons of choosing to keep the car for herself. Although she wanted to give each of the others a new car, she finally decided to take the shiny new SUV for herself, noting, "Screw the curse. I can win a car and a million dollars if I play my cards right." She added, "I'm here to beat the odds, and so far I have." Cindy then picked Stephenie to go with her on the overnight trip.

DIG IN
Cindy and Stephenie laughed and sang as they cruised through the rural back-roads of Guatemala, and Cindy exclaimed, "Chicks rule!" Moments later, they arrived at the archeology camp and were greeted by an archeologist named Frederico. He offered them a wooden crate of food and drinks. The girls immediately dug in and started grilling the steak, sausage and veggies. Cindy contemplated her decision and came to a conclusion, "At this point, there are no guarantees. They are not going to give you a million dollars because you gave them a car."

SOUR GRAPES
Back at camp, Rafe was shocked over Cindy's decision not to give away the four cars and confessed," I never would have taken the car for myself." Danni agreed with Rafe, adding, "I would have done it in a heartbeat, because you would have had four people very happy with you." On the other hand, Lydia did not agree with Danni and Rafe because she felt Cindy made the right choice.

HISTORY LESSON
After Cindy and Stephenie had prepared their food, Federico came back to join them for a drink. He shared with them his expertise of ancient Maya history and told them numerous stories of the Maya folklore. Later, Cindy and Stephenie retired for the night to their elevated sleeping cabana where they discussed strategy. They talked in depth about voting Danni out next because they felt she was the biggest threat.

BACK TO CAMP
When Cindy and Stephenie arrived back at camp, they faced a barrage of questions about the Reward. In her enthusiasm, Cindy could not stop talking about the car, unaware that her relentless chatter annoyed the rest of the tribe. Later, in a conversation with Stephenie, Rafe declared he would have given the cars away. Surprised, Stephenie disagreed with him. Rafe then contemplated, "Am I playing this game too nicely right now?"

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE: POLE DANCING
When the tribe arrived for the Immunity Challenge, Jeff Probst explained the rules: Attached to a long rope wrapped around a series of poles and connected with locks, each player must unwind as much rope as possible. The twist: each player's hands and feet were bound in metal shackles.

Stephenie and Rafe jumped into the lead as the five struggled with the locks and the web of tangled ropes. It was close, but Stephenie untied herself first and raced for the finish line. Her rope, however, had several knots in it and was not long enough to reach the finish line. With Cindy close on her heels, Stephenie frantically worked on the knots in her rope. In the nick of time, she untied the knots and reached the finish line flag. This marked Stephenie's first individual Immunity victory in two seasons of SURVIVOR.

A PROMISE IS A PROMISE IS A PROMISE
With the Tribal Council vote looming, Rafe and Danni's bond was strengthened when they promised they would not vote for each other. Hoping that Rafe was telling the truth and that she might be spared in the upcoming vote, Danni confessed, "He seems to be a pretty honest guy. Hopefully I'll be okay tonight."

Moments later, Danni promised Rafe that if she made it to the Final Three, she would take him to the Final Two, even though she felt as though she could not win against him. Rafe noted, "Danni has promised me she would take me to the Final Two. That is a huge degree of security at the end of a crazy, crazy game."

Rafe, in turn, approached Stephenie with a plan to vote off Cindy, whispering, "I think we have a better shot of beating Danni in the Final Three than Cindy." Stephenie, however, was uneasy about voting Cindy off, because it meant she was turning on yet another member of her alliance.

Cindy then changed her mind and thought it would be better idea to eliminate Rafe. She then approached Danni and Stephenie to turn on Rafe and vote him out. By taking Rafe out, the Final Four would consist of all women. Cindy added, "The smartest thing to do is eliminate him and have all girls go to the Final Four.

CINDY VOTED OUT
At Tribal Council, Cindy defended her choice to keep the car at the Reward Challenge, but Stephenie chipped away at her alliance once again, and Cindy was voted out.

Well I guess I was right when I dubbed this episode “Cindy’s Swan Song” because the SeeBS webmaster screwed up again. The video of the players comment while they are voting stops right after Cindy casts her vote. So I cannot get the other’s comments.

Cindy (votes Rafe): My best pal in the game has become my biggest rival. Your just a tough competitor and all walks of competition you do well and dang it, people just like ya. So, you’re a complete package when it comes to threats.

All the rest voted for Cindy

Cindy’s Final Words

Well here I am, 36 days into the game, and this is my last. Um, apparently, you would think living in the Guatemalan jungle, that only the strong would survive, but, I’m out of the game now so I think maybe that’s not so true, because, I’m probably one of the strongest people. Sitting up there tonight, and now they want back to camp and I’m not with ‘em.

So ah, I have no regrets in this game, I have no regrets in the way I played the game and what happened. Playing this game has been the biggest dream I’ve ever had in my entire life, and every single thing that has happened during the past 36 days, made that dream even bigger than I could have ever in my wildest imagination created. So I’m absolutely ecstatic for every opportunity that I’ve had over the past 36 days. And I got to know people, and create friendships with people that normally would have never ever happened. So…Some truly amazing things have happened during the past 36 days, and I will never ever forget them. So yeah, I didn’t win the million bucks, but I’ve got memories that are priceless. There are no dollar signs in the things I’m gonna have in my head, in my heart as a result of this game for the rest of my life.

I do not regret taking the car, especially tonight. I feel that whether I had kept the car and the reward, or given the cars to the four other tribe members and let them go on the reward, I’d still be sitting here tonight. Because apparently, it’s all about me being a strong competitor, and that’s the reason why I was voted out tonight. People apparently think I am a big huge threat when it comes to challenges, physical challenges, competitions, which is silly, because Rafe has won a lot of them, and I’ve really only won two but I think maybe I’ve turned on the heat a little much and people found that to be a threat, but I’m not gonna pretend to not wanna win a challenge so that people would wanna keep me around. I’m gonna do my best, I’m gonna try my hardest, I’m gonna give it my all, every single chance I get, and that’s what I did, so if that’s what got me voted out I’ve got nuthin to be ashamed about.

I think the one thing I’ll miss the most is the sounds of the jungle. Whether it’s at night and it’s a howler monkey at 3 am or big frogs calling back and forth across the camp or birds making a bunch of noise, flying over, rustling in the trees, just at the break of day, waking you up, it doesn’t matter. I will miss the cicadas, the birds, the howler monkeys, the frogs, every noise you hear at night, because it literally is nature’s orchestra and I am gonna wish that I could go to bed at night and hear that probably for many nights to come so that’s, I’m gonna miss that a lot.

Probably what surprised me the most about being out here is how much, like, tonight when we left for Tribal Council, and I thought there was a good possibility that I was the target, um, that’s when I really felt the most surprised, because I felt like as I left camp and walked down the hill to tribal council that I was literally leaving home. And I felt as if I was leaving a home that I could never come back to. And I never expected, in this game to feel that way about anybody I’ve played the game with, or anywhere that I went. But after 36 days, it doesn’t seem long in real life, but out here, I’ve literally felt like I was leaving home and I was never gonna get to come back.

One thing I learned about myself, um, being out here and playing this game, is that number one, I don’t have to pretend to be somebody that I’m not, to be successful, because, I’ve been exactly who I am this whole game, maybe just a little more subdued on the attitude, but I’ve been pretty much myself the whole game and it got me really far. I also, um, about myself, I learned that I can socialize better with people that I don’t know so well, then I expected, and that I can get along and I can be accepted into groups of people that normally I would look at from the outside and say yeah, I would never like them or yeah I’ll never get along with them, they’ll never accept me. Because I was accepted and I did get along with people and I created friendships with people that in real life I would have never even given a second thought to being in a relationship, a friendship with. So I’ve really surprised myself socially as well.

Final word to my tribe is I hope all your expectations are carried out and I hope you guys can go home and have the appreciation for the jungle a little more than maybe you normally would. And I hope you wake up at night and wish you could hear the howler monkeys and the frogs instead of cursing them. So I hope this game gives you a different appreciation for the environment as well as every aspect of life that we tend to take for granted on a daily basis.

Remember, the 2 hour season finale is THIS SUNDAY night at 8:00PM, East Coast Time. So set your TiVos and VCRs accordingly.

Take care,

FReepmail me if you want added to, or removed from the one, the only, Official Survivor Ping List.

1,907 posted on 12/09/2005 9:45:02 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money (Replacing Dan Rather with Katie Couric is like replacing an idiot with an imbecile.)
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To: 24Karet; Alice in Wonderland; alisasny; agarrett; A knight without armor; ...
By the way, here is another little tidbit of news I'd thought I'd pass along.

Jeff Probst Signs New 'Survivor' Contract

AP
LOS ANGELES - Jeff Probst said he's decided that life without "Survivor" wouldn't be as much fun and he's sticking with the CBS reality series.

"I was thinking about retiring and spending my time traveling to exotic locations around the world, meeting new and interesting people. Then I realized, uh, wait a second, I'm already doing that with 'Survivor' and getting paid for it, as well," Probst, 44, said in a statement Thursday.

He has signed a new multiyear deal, CBS spokesman Chris Ender said.

Probst said in October that he was weighing whether to continue with the show. He has hosted "Survivor" since it debuted in summer 2000 and his current contract ends with the edition now in production.

Mark Burnett, the show's executive producer, lauded Probst's contributions to the "ever-evolving game" in which players face physical and mental challenges in a bid to win $1 million.

"I consider him a friend and look forward to continuing to keep 'Survivor' fresh with Jeff for many more seasons," Burnett said in a statement.

Last month, CBS announced that it will air the 13th and 14th versions of "Survivor" in the 2006-07 season.

The 12th edition, being filmed at an undisclosed location, is slated for the spring. The finale for the current show, "Survivor: Guatemala," is Sunday, 8 p.m. EST.

1,908 posted on 12/09/2005 9:51:47 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money (Replacing Dan Rather with Katie Couric is like replacing an idiot with an imbecile.)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Cindy did not use the "Give up your car and give each of the others a car" situation to her advantage...

She should have said... "I will give up the car, if all 4 of the others agree to take me to the Final Two"... "Rafe, do you agree with those terms?" "Steph, do you agree with those terms"... etc...

This way... the decision to not give the others a car is not hers... it's the person who answers "NO" to her deal. This way the "blame" is deflected to that person, not her.

Also... if the others all agree to her deal, then she's either going to the Final Two... or someone is breaking the deal in the biggest backstabbing in Survivor history - which will be held against them in the final vote.

But no... Cindy didn't even attempt to use the situation to her advantage, and was rightfully voted off, as she did not "outwit" her opponents.


1,909 posted on 12/09/2005 9:57:04 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: MomwithHope
RAFE WINS THE NEXT IMMUNITY!

I saw that on the previews. I figure if Rafe keeps his word to Danni, and Lydia still likes Rafe next week, it's bye-bye StephaME.

1,910 posted on 12/09/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money; eyespysomething

Cuz,
For those of us who are too stooopid to rewind the tape before they record the next to last episode of Survivor, thanks for the recap.


1,911 posted on 12/09/2005 10:09:56 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: silent_jonny
""I'll be thinking about you guys when looking at the stars through my sunroof!!!"

LOL That pic is going to serve a number of purposes in the future.

BTW I hope Danni wins, but she's gonna be mad as heck at Gary when she finds out he really is Hogeboom!! I can't wait for that momeent.

1,912 posted on 12/09/2005 10:13:42 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Philosophy: Miracles Do Happen!!)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money; All
MEMO to Cindy:

It's a PONTIAC..forget the immunity necklace, take the Extended Warranty!!

1,913 posted on 12/09/2005 10:17:22 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: luckystarmom

Albert became a drug addict?

Yep. He became addicted to morphine. And then as if that wasn't enough they have him die later on from leukemia. That last season was the saddest one. one tragedy after another.


1,914 posted on 12/09/2005 10:39:06 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: luckystarmom

You are right, it would be stupid of Rafe to choose Danni, he should pick Lydia, no one respects how she has played.


1,915 posted on 12/09/2005 10:48:07 AM PST by rarenmrepublican
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To: sockmonkey
"next week, it's bye-bye StephaME."

One can hope!!!

1,916 posted on 12/09/2005 11:26:25 AM PST by sweet_diane (I support TheShoulder dot org)
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To: 24Karet; Alice in Wonderland; alisasny; agarrett; A knight without armor; ...
Looks like someone over on the Survivor Sucks site has managed to bypass the SeeBS webmaster's goof up, so here are the rest of the players comments while they were voting:

Again, if you did not have a chance to view last night's show yet, DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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Danni: (votes Cindy) Cindy, the only reason I am writing your name down is that I gave my word to Rafe and I think he is the only person in the game that has not gone back in his word so far and I plan to keep it that way.

StepheME: (Votes Cindy) Cindy, I tried so hard to stick to the plan but when we came back from the reward, they told me "No way", even if I didn't vote for you tonight, the other 3 would have and you were gone. So sorry, you are an amazing woman and I had an awesome time with you. You deserve the best always in life and can't wait to hang out with you after the game. Bye.

Lydia: (votes Cindy) What a terrific person you are! But you are very fast, athletic, competitive and very intelligent and I am voting with the tribe.

Rafe: (votes Cindy) Cindy, I always knew you'd vote whichever way the wind was blowing. In a game where I'm the biggest threat, it's always blowing towards me. I have to vote you out. I love you though.

1,917 posted on 12/09/2005 11:30:08 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money (Replacing Dan Rather with Katie Couric is like replacing an idiot with an imbecile.)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Lydia is the worst.

No skills, no talent, will do whatever someone else tells her.

Worst final 4 member ever.


1,918 posted on 12/09/2005 11:31:58 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Christmas is annoying, Happy Festivus)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Sooooo happy to hear that Jeff is staying with the show!


1,919 posted on 12/09/2005 11:35:38 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
stupidist exit line ever on Survivor -

, Cindy jabbed, "Thanks, guys. I'll be thinking of you when I see the stars through the sunroof of my new car."

Let's see, a car that will maybe last 10 years and get older every year versus a million dollars and buying a brand new car every year. She wanted them to be envious of her when one of them will be a millionaire - and it could have been her if she had given away the cars.

1,920 posted on 12/09/2005 12:48:35 PM PST by MomwithHope
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