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Man Accused Of Tossing Son's Puppy Off 5th Floor Balcony
WFTV ^ | 8/2/05 | WFTV

Posted on 08/02/2005 9:03:04 AM PDT by paltz

MIRAMAR, Fla. -- A man was arrested on charges of killing his son's 2-month-old black Labrador puppy by throwing it five stories to the ground after it urinated and defecated inside their apartment.

Josper Sanon, 49, took the dog and flung it 25 feet through the air off their fifth-floor balcony, the arrest warrant said.

A police officer found Sanon's 16-year-old son Steve screaming and crying in the parking lot of their apartment.

Josper Sanon was arrested on charges of cruel death, pain and suffering of an animal, a third-degree felony. He was being held on $2,500 bail.

He faces up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine if convicted.

Miramar police spokesman Bill Robertson said the fact that the dog was found 25 feet from the balcony shows the animal was thrown and did not accidentally fall.

Sanon's two children were placed in the temporary custody of a family member. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: adogisnotacat; atleastitwasntacat; crueltytoanimals; dog; puppy
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To: One Proud Dad
the humanizing of animals has to be turned down a bit.

I disagree. Pets give a lot of love and happiness. They also can and do become family. I'm not close to my family and my pets have become mine.

81 posted on 08/02/2005 10:23:42 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: william clark

I am light years from this guy, I have owned ( yes owned ) more animals ( dogs, cattle, and horses ) than a great deal of people here. I once again will say I am not speaking of the dad. I am speaking of the issues with the kid.

Maybe in my first post I should have made that clearer.


82 posted on 08/02/2005 10:24:58 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad

What's wrong with a 16 year old boy crying? IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Perhaps the only love that boy recieved in that household was from that dog.


83 posted on 08/02/2005 10:26:13 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: One Proud Dad

I don't see anyone focusing on the puppy, more the act of killing a puppy being something that marks the Dad as being, well...a rotten piece of excrement on the sole of human decency.

However, you, in your first post, bragged about how after a certain age, your sons wouldn't have cried like that over a similar incident. There was a great deal implied in your post...and some of it quite chilling. Like range of motion in limbs and muscles, or senses that are limited or even missing....it seems that there is a limit to your range and understanding of human emotion here.

The boy had a right to be hysterical. His father killed something of his that he cared about. And puppies, being what they are and the affection that humans have for dogs, make the father's actions all the more, well, evil.


84 posted on 08/02/2005 10:28:19 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Passionate crowd, ain't it? But I'll bet, like George Strait you'd `like to have that one back' . . .
We have a 90 lb. liver-color lab and my family lives in a big house, not an apt. He likes to sleep in the `traffic lanes': we step over, around or--if it's dark--on him.
He yelps or barks. No one cries.


85 posted on 08/02/2005 10:29:03 AM PDT by tumblindice (10 yard penalty: 'Piling on')
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

I am sure you do. I shed tears for people ( and have ) not animals. If I shed one here it will be for the kids ( the younger ones especially )not the dog.

I shed tears at each one of my childrens birth, at each death or funeral of one of my fallen comarades, at deaths of family members, and at great words from patriots, I just don't do it for animals that by God's own word were put here to serve my needs.


86 posted on 08/02/2005 10:29:56 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Ciexyz

You are soooo right!


87 posted on 08/02/2005 10:34:19 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: Ciexyz; baltodog; najida; All
Each animal, big or small, is a bundle of love and a gift from the Lord.

Yes, they are a blessing.

Dogs are amazingly sensitive creatures--I once read that they did a study and found that dogs *knew* when their owners left work to come home. Even if the owners left at a different time than usual, when the owners left their job, the dogs would start pacing and looking out the window in expectation. Amazing...

This poor kid. In one fell swoop he was subjected to nightmarish emotional abuse, and lost the unconditional love of his puppy.

I wonder if it would be possible to contribute to getting him a new puppy?

88 posted on 08/02/2005 10:34:45 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: najida

My first post was: "If a 16 year old boy was crying he had other issues to deal with than the death of a puppy". I said nothing about ages etc...

Am I correct in saying he has issues to deal with? Did I say what they were? You all are the ones reading in to the story more than I, assuming abuse or other scenarios. I commented on the story as written.

Some of you have gone along way to vilianize me over this simple statement which said exactly what you have been saying. You are preaching to the choir. Yes father is evil. Punish him and get the kids the attention they need


89 posted on 08/02/2005 10:36:20 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
Some of you have gone along way to vilianize me over this simple statement which said exactly what you have been saying.

We gave commonality in 'the father is rat b@st@rd', BUT....

My point is we have had pets die not just dogs but horses and such and once my boys were over about 13-14 they didn't bat an eye.

Nope, this is the statement that started it all.

90 posted on 08/02/2005 10:40:47 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: One Proud Dad
I once read that they did a study and found that dogs *knew* when their owners left work to come home. Even if the owners left at a different time than usual, when the owners left their job, the dogs would start pacing and looking out the window in expectation. Amazing...

"Amazing"? Okay, now I'm wondering whether (A) I'm the insensitive lout around here, or (B) that's just plain b*llsh*t. :)

91 posted on 08/02/2005 10:44:13 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: proud American in Canada; One Proud Dad

Oops. My #91 was meant for proud American in Canada.

Sorry for the confusion; I clicked the wrong 'Post Reply' link.


92 posted on 08/02/2005 10:46:39 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: najida

And that statment is true, my kids being raised on a farm ( and I don't mean a suburban hobby farm we had over 300 head at one time ) have come to realize animals come and go. They are compassionate in their caring of the animals in our charge, but when the end comes it comes.

There was also a couple times when an animal had to be put down when I wasn't there and my oldest at the time ( 15 ) did it.

3 of my 5 watched with me one night as a bolt of lightning killed 4 show heifers, 2 horses, and one dog. They shed a tear and we cleaned up. They did not dwell.

I guess none of you have lived on a real farm where life and death are a daily occurence and you learn that fact at an early age.


93 posted on 08/02/2005 10:50:36 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: newgeezer
Okay, now I'm wondering whether (A) I'm the insensitive lout around here, or (B) that's just plain b*llsh*t

LOL!

I'm trying to find a source for this but am getting a lot of weird psychic websites.

I probably heard it on Art Bell. :)

94 posted on 08/02/2005 10:52:11 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: One Proud Dad
No. I was not commenting on the actions of the dad, but the actions of the 16 year old boy. What the dad did was wrong, more than wrong, but he did it

I guess that you'd be more proud if the kid had killed the old man instead of crying about the pup.

Or better yet, what if the kid was tough, like your boys, and decided to be more like his proud dad and went out and got a litter or two of pups to fling off the 5th floor.

Atta boy! Even better. Let the old man fling em and the kid can try to pop em with a 12ga, like skeet shooting.

Now we're having real fun.

95 posted on 08/02/2005 10:57:45 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: baltodog
Balto will be waiting for me at the Rainbow Bridge, but if you pass there first, I won't scold him for taking a bite of your ass...

I'm sorry to hear about Balto. I recently (July 9th) put my cat down after 15 years. The hardest thing I had to do. I miss her dearly, but I know I will see her again someday too at the Rainbow Bridge :)

It's too bad that you will never know or experience the special gift of friendship an animal will bring.

I don't think he could appreciate the love an animal can bring into ones life. The special bond between an owner and his/her pet is a friendship that can never be replaced or forgotton.

96 posted on 08/02/2005 11:05:41 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: One Proud Dad
The cruelty of the father should be addressed

There's the key right there - somebody who would so casually kill or abuse a pet - there's something seriously wrong with them. Chances are they don't stop with pets.
97 posted on 08/02/2005 11:06:24 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: One Proud Dad

Sweet cheeks,
I too grew up on a farm....and I still live on it. Granted, not to your scope, but it was/is a nice little spot. A subsistance dirt farm with cows, pigs, chickens, fish pond...even an old rat snake in the corn crib.

I also grew up understanding the difference between stewardship and abuse. I've been to many a fall butchering ...I can skin, scale, gut and clean when needed. I had no illusions where my food came from. I've probably spent more time around animals than I have humans. They were my sanity in an world of insane adults.

And yeah, I did lean on my brothers to put down an animal when the time came. This last time though, I had to do it myself and it sucked (granted, it was just one of my nestling 'keets that got injured).

And I squalled like a baby afterward.

The issue is this boys right to feel what he feels and grieve as he chooses. And if its over an animal, then mebby that is because it's the closest he came to feeling loved. So mebby I see a bit of myself in this kid.... whatever.


98 posted on 08/02/2005 11:06:51 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: cowboyway

I guess you need to take a remedial reading class. I never said the puppy needed to die, for the kid to do it, or for the kid to kill the dad. I said, "the kid has issues."

I can see now you have resorted to speaking of my children whom you do not know and disparage them and my feelings toward them. You all can dwell on the further comments and wild speculation of what hidden murderous agenda I have or my callous ways without me.

BTW, I am not crying merely going back to work. I sure hope none of my cows are dead when I get home I might have to have a wake.


99 posted on 08/02/2005 11:08:02 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
I lived on a farm as a kid and I am well aware of the fact that of the occurrence of live and death,but that doesn't mean that I have become desensitized to such occurrences.

I cried when my cat died and so did my kids,that is all part of live as well.It's how we deal with death, whether it is a human death or a pets death.I don't humanize pets,but I love and care for them and if one dies I feel the loss.
100 posted on 08/02/2005 11:09:04 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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