Posted on 07/06/2005 10:44:42 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
And isn't Madilyn Murray O'Hare trying to get all religion off of the radio and TV airwaves?
So
SIMMER DOWN, NOW!
Constitution day,
Do you work for Quackwatch?
Pawn for the FDA? Pawn for Big Pharma out doing your thing on the internet?
Jenny
"Maybe because this urban ledgend keeps surfacing ? "
Maybe we should address that urban legend about the FDA sending a delegation to the EU meeting last month to sign the agreement on the Codex. Of course this only goes into effect if we pass FTAA.
Nope. None of the above.
I've just had it with kooky conspiracy theories.
I see that daily now. Isn't that the norm?
"Why do you keep posting this after everyone keeps telling you it isn't true??
Simple: $$$"
Constitution - Are you a whore for big pharam hanging out at free republic to make sure this does not make it into the blogosphere?
Jenny
"Short History – Key Data
When debating regulatory matters I believe it is essential to bear in mind that the supplement industry and the drug industry are totally different industries. The natural supplement industry and its related discipline, natural health care is thousands of years old with a proven tradition. For example, Nostradamus used compressed rose petal pastilles, rich in vitamin C to treat his patients suffering from bubonic plague. Many of his patients survived the dreaded disease, and Nostradamus himself, who took the pastilles never succumbed to the illness.
The modern supplement industry has been traditionally locally owned by private or family companies and evolved around its own proven quality and safety standards. Traditionally using cheap and naturally sourced raw ingredients, the supplement industry has an enviable product safety record. In addition an entire branch of natural and nutritional medicine has developed over the centuries with a long tradition of safety and a large body of scientific evidence in support of its efficacy. A little known fact is that literally thousands of peer-reviewed studies exist to support the success of natural and nutritional approaches to medicine. (36,37,38,39,40) There exist many conditions that can only be significantly remedied by nutritional medicine.
The pharmaceutical industry as we know it, on the other hand, only started in earnest about 60 years ago. Many drugs have been so recently synthesised that their side effects will not be known for some years to come. Pharmaceutical corporations rely on patented artificial chemical drugs to generate most of their profits. Aggressive drug company marketing and image management has created the impression that drugs are essential to health, when in fact deaths from adverse drug reactions make up the fourth highest cause of death in the US. Still stinging from the market share lost through consumers opting for natural supplements, the trans-national pharmaceutical corporations have influenced the regulators to regulate supplements as drugs when in fact vitamins and minerals are not drugs but essential to all humans on a daily basis.
The difference between drugs and nutrients is that they are fundamentally opposites. There are many conditions caused when sufficient nutrients are not supplied to the body each day, but there is no such thing as a drug deficiency."
Big Pharma are trying to force people/medical insurers to buy expensive pharmaceutical treatments rather than avoid being ill in the first place. This really is conscienceless: an example of the Health Industry as monstrous life-crushing juggernaut. The only worse thing would be abolition of the private health sector.
This is a bit previous, but in the months/years before this colossal stitchup gets quashed should anyone find a way of bulk buying vitamins (e.g. from a non-signatory?) please post it up. Finding alternates will at least defeat the purpose of the Codex.
Aha!!! Mystery solved.
I heard that if you flash your brights at a car without it's lights on that the people in the other car will kill you for a gang intiation. I got it in an e-mail so it is totally true. Oh and don't look for change in pay phone because crazy people put needles in there with AIDS in them. Seriesly.
To Mad Mammoth (ie pawn for big pharma out doing trouble shooting at Free Republic...)
I think we have a little shoot the messenger going on...
Jenny Hatch
"Which brings us to the "Codex" issue, itself.
A Canadian friend of mine, author Helke Ferrie, has what I think is a clear, concise explanation of the dangers of "Codex." Read this, and get worried:
LIFE UNDER CODEX
In the mid-1990s my mother, then in her 80s, had a stroke. She lived in Germany. When she left hospital, I was ready with a nutritional plan that included high-dose vitamins: C, E, and B – especially Inositol, as well as Co-enzyme Q 10. I went to the pharmacy, whose owner was a family friend for some 25 years, and handed him my list.
He handed me a small packet with a price sticker of DM 200 (then about $200) containing vitamin E capsules manufactured by one of Germany's largest pharmaceutical companies. The source was synthetic, not the "mixed" version from living plant sources I wanted which contains the whole E spectrum. The package contained a total of 10,000 international units of E, the equivalent of a mere 25 capsules of 400 IU each that we are used to buying (I take that many in 3 days). Our bottles contain 90 capsules and cost about $20. If Codex rules in Canada, we will likely pay $800 for a bottle of 90 capsules of low-quality vitamin E – if Health Canada lets us buy that many at once, and if you can find a doctor willing to prescribe it.
He then handed me a tube-shaped metal container with vitamin C effervescent tablets. Each tablet, when dissolved in water, would release 10 mg of vitamin C in a refined sugar solution. Thus, this ridiculously low amount, was to be taken in a toxic medium that would neutralize the vitamin without it doing anything at all. The cost: about $10 for 12 tablets.
Then he asked me, "What's Co-enzyme Q 10? Are you allowed to buy all this in Canada in such dangerous dosages?" When I told him what I take daily, his eyes popped. Then I asked, "Why can't I buy these supplements here?" He replied, "Well, Germany is a Codex country." Oddly, Germany has several government-run hospitals where environmental illness is treated with nutrients only, intravenous vitamin C etc. Life is full of paradoxes and few more follow below.
CODEX AND THE EU
Dr. Carolyn Dean, a medical doctor and naturopath well known to Toronto readers, is currently the president of "Friends of Freedom International" in which capacity she attended the Codex meeting in Bonn last November. She describes Codex as "the ultimate Big Brother marching backwards into the future."
Effective 1 August, all vitamin and mineral supplements on the so-called "positive list", including everything from Beta Carotene to Zinc, will only be available in the 25 EU countries if they comply with specific rules set out in the 10 June 2002, EU Directive Relating to Food Supplements. All products must show maximum safe levels "as established by science."
Those nutrients found in the mythic "balanced diet" are to be subtracted from the final values, and Article 6 (2) decrees that labels shall "not attribute to food supplements the property of preventing, treating or curing a human disease, or refer to such properties."
So, the Directive's "science" knows nothing of Vitamin C preventing and curing scurvy, Vitamin D preventing and curing rickets and osteoporosis, or vitamin B curing and preventing anemia. It also ignores the mountain of evidence showing our diets are chronically deficient in essential nutrients because of factory-style farming practices.
To "ensure a high level of protection for consumers and facilitate their choice", they even included baking soda and table salt. We must assume they will be unavailable as of 1 August anywhere in Europe – with interesting consequences for the tourist industry in the baked goods paradises Austria, Switzerland and France.
Now, there is also a "negative list" covering essential fatty acids, phytonutrients, all the enzymes and more. Those cannot be marketed at all, until the EU scientific committee in charge has made a final decision. So, forget omega-3 and omega-6 fats, cod liver oil, and much more.
The effect of this directive will be that thousands of products and businesses will be gone this year. In the UK alone some 21 million people will suddenly have no access to any supplement vitamins, minerals, enzymes, fatty acids and more. Since the onus is on businesses to produce the scientific information on safety, they can't produce or sell anything – not even to physicians who have the power to prescribe any toxic drug as well as any essential nutrient. Obviously, there will be ludicrous enforcement issues: Picture basement-concocted vitamins sold in dark alleys alongside crack and Ecstasy.
We're in trouble in the US over the "Codex" problem. Why? Because there is too much conflict among the people who should be working together to solve the problem. We are not ready for big Pharma's assault - and it's coming."
Some of the kookburgers are fun to watch, though. I imagine Jenny has a LOT of experience with "natural substances." ;^)
You're a pawn for big pharma? Cool, me too! Nicetameetcha! :^)
Once again, no. Please watch your tongue.
I also hasten to add that just because something might "make it into the blogosphere" doesn't make it true.
Bye now!
LOL!! It certainly would explain alot.
I'm not a fan or pawn for big pharma, but honestly, Jenny, posting false information doesn't do anyone any good. The next time something real happens, no one is going to believe you if you post it.
See #26. Apparently I'm a "whore for big pharam."
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