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To: TheBigB
BigB said to JennyHatch:

[because]"You are very stupid?"

DING DING DING!!!

We have a WINNER!!!!

Tell BigB what he's won Don Pardo!!!

"He's won a YEAR'S supply of GINGKO BILOBA, from the NATURAL FAMILY COMPANY!"

Wow Don, that's quite a prize! And just think, BigB MIGHT have won Carol Merrill over at Door Number THREE!!!

30 posted on 07/06/2005 10:58:40 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: Mad Mammoth

To Mad Mammoth (ie pawn for big pharma out doing trouble shooting at Free Republic...)

I think we have a little shoot the messenger going on...

Jenny Hatch


"Which brings us to the "Codex" issue, itself.

A Canadian friend of mine, author Helke Ferrie, has what I think is a clear, concise explanation of the dangers of "Codex." Read this, and get worried:

LIFE UNDER CODEX

In the mid-1990s my mother, then in her 80s, had a stroke. She lived in Germany. When she left hospital, I was ready with a nutritional plan that included high-dose vitamins: C, E, and B – especially Inositol, as well as Co-enzyme Q 10. I went to the pharmacy, whose owner was a family friend for some 25 years, and handed him my list.

He handed me a small packet with a price sticker of DM 200 (then about $200) containing vitamin E capsules manufactured by one of Germany's largest pharmaceutical companies. The source was synthetic, not the "mixed" version from living plant sources I wanted which contains the whole E spectrum. The package contained a total of 10,000 international units of E, the equivalent of a mere 25 capsules of 400 IU each that we are used to buying (I take that many in 3 days). Our bottles contain 90 capsules and cost about $20. If Codex rules in Canada, we will likely pay $800 for a bottle of 90 capsules of low-quality vitamin E – if Health Canada lets us buy that many at once, and if you can find a doctor willing to prescribe it.

He then handed me a tube-shaped metal container with vitamin C effervescent tablets. Each tablet, when dissolved in water, would release 10 mg of vitamin C in a refined sugar solution. Thus, this ridiculously low amount, was to be taken in a toxic medium that would neutralize the vitamin without it doing anything at all. The cost: about $10 for 12 tablets.

Then he asked me, "What's Co-enzyme Q 10? Are you allowed to buy all this in Canada in such dangerous dosages?" When I told him what I take daily, his eyes popped. Then I asked, "Why can't I buy these supplements here?" He replied, "Well, Germany is a Codex country." Oddly, Germany has several government-run hospitals where environmental illness is treated with nutrients only, intravenous vitamin C etc. Life is full of paradoxes and few more follow below.

CODEX AND THE EU

Dr. Carolyn Dean, a medical doctor and naturopath well known to Toronto readers, is currently the president of "Friends of Freedom International" in which capacity she attended the Codex meeting in Bonn last November. She describes Codex as "the ultimate Big Brother marching backwards into the future."

Effective 1 August, all vitamin and mineral supplements on the so-called "positive list", including everything from Beta Carotene to Zinc, will only be available in the 25 EU countries if they comply with specific rules set out in the 10 June 2002, EU Directive Relating to Food Supplements. All products must show maximum safe levels "as established by science."

Those nutrients found in the mythic "balanced diet" are to be subtracted from the final values, and Article 6 (2) decrees that labels shall "not attribute to food supplements the property of preventing, treating or curing a human disease, or refer to such properties."

So, the Directive's "science" knows nothing of Vitamin C preventing and curing scurvy, Vitamin D preventing and curing rickets and osteoporosis, or vitamin B curing and preventing anemia. It also ignores the mountain of evidence showing our diets are chronically deficient in essential nutrients because of factory-style farming practices.

To "ensure a high level of protection for consumers and facilitate their choice", they even included baking soda and table salt. We must assume they will be unavailable as of 1 August anywhere in Europe – with interesting consequences for the tourist industry in the baked goods paradises Austria, Switzerland and France.

Now, there is also a "negative list" covering essential fatty acids, phytonutrients, all the enzymes and more. Those cannot be marketed at all, until the EU scientific committee in charge has made a final decision. So, forget omega-3 and omega-6 fats, cod liver oil, and much more.

The effect of this directive will be that thousands of products and businesses will be gone this year. In the UK alone some 21 million people will suddenly have no access to any supplement vitamins, minerals, enzymes, fatty acids and more. Since the onus is on businesses to produce the scientific information on safety, they can't produce or sell anything – not even to physicians who have the power to prescribe any toxic drug as well as any essential nutrient. Obviously, there will be ludicrous enforcement issues: Picture basement-concocted vitamins sold in dark alleys alongside crack and Ecstasy.

We're in trouble in the US over the "Codex" problem. Why? Because there is too much conflict among the people who should be working together to solve the problem. We are not ready for big Pharma's assault - and it's coming."


33 posted on 07/06/2005 11:02:48 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Jenny Hatch)
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To: Mad Mammoth

BigB said to JennyHatch:

[because]"You are very stupid?"

DING DING DING!!!

We have a WINNER!!!!


Personal attack

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Generally, a personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

It is considered a personal attack when a person starts referencing a supposed flaw or weakness in an individual's personality, beliefs, lifestyle, convictions or principles, and use it as a debate tactic or as a means of AVOIDING DISCUSSION of the relevance or truthfulness of what the person said.

It works on the reasoning that, by discrediting the source of an argument, e.g. the person making it, the argument itself can be weakened.

Jenny


85 posted on 07/06/2005 2:51:57 PM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Jenny Hatch)
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