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ART Appreciation/Education "class" #3: van Gogh and Cezanne
6/9/05 | republicanprofessor

Posted on 06/09/2005 3:44:59 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor

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My third of this series. I have an Art Ap/Education ping list if you want to be on it. I have added a couple of new names from the recent threads; if you want to be deleted, just let me know.

Please continue to discuss, ask questions, prod and push me. Post other images; let's have more fun trying to understand this difficult art.

1 posted on 06/09/2005 3:44:59 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: Sam Cree; Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; B Knotts; Dolphy; ...

Art Ap/Ed ping list. Let me know if you want on or off the list.


2 posted on 06/09/2005 3:48:55 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Van Gogh is my favorite. I could study his pictures all day long (if I didn't have to work, that is).


4 posted on 06/09/2005 3:50:25 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Thpfffft; Admin Moderator

Yup, 'dat be a Troll!


5 posted on 06/09/2005 3:51:28 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: Republicanprofessor

His obnoxious brother - Please Gogh
His brother who ate prunes - Gotta Gogh
His brother who worked in the convenience store - Stopn Gogh
His grandfather from Yugoslavia - U. Gogh
His brother who bleached his clothes white - Hue Gogh
His cousin from Illinois - Chica Gogh
His uncle, the magician - Wherediddy Gogh
His cousin from Mexico - Amee Gogh
His Mexican's cousin's American half brother - Grin Gogh
His nephew who drove the stagecoach - Wellsfar Gogh
His constipated uncle - Cant Gogh
His ballroom dancing aunt - Tang Gogh


6 posted on 06/09/2005 3:56:18 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Thanks for the ping. I am enjoying your threads very much.


7 posted on 06/09/2005 3:57:58 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Republicanprofessor

Thanks for the ping. I'm really enjoying your lessons. Keep 'em coming.


8 posted on 06/09/2005 4:00:32 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers (Freud was wrong. It's all about "Roe v. Wade")
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To: Thpfffft

Take it somewhere else, degenerate.


9 posted on 06/09/2005 4:02:11 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Add me to your ping list if you would.


10 posted on 06/09/2005 4:03:43 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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That is an AWFUL work of Bush and Liberty: technically and politically (from my point of view). Yuck.

But I still like to see all kinds of images, even those I dislike. Do you like this? If so, why?

11 posted on 06/09/2005 4:05:36 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Don't know a whole lot about art. But I've always admired the artists who painted "a strict recreation of reality" - (as you worded it).

It just amazes me to see a painting that is so precise it looks like a photograph. I've 'attempted' a few art classes and realize how difficult it is to paint realistically.

But still I enjoy very much Monet, van Gogh, etc. And I'm even beginning to like modern abstract art.

Please include me in your ping list.


12 posted on 06/09/2005 4:19:20 PM PDT by Cedar
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"Thpfffft" is what is known as a troll. More specifically, a dead troll. It won't be answering you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~thpfffft/

13 posted on 06/09/2005 4:20:51 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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My favorite. Seurat's Gray Weather.
14 posted on 06/09/2005 4:40:25 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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What a beautiful Seurat! I've never seen that one; where is it located?

I love the frame-within-a-frame and how the color changes as it goes around to complement the painting itself.

You can see that he is even more scientific than Cezanne, and his work can be seen as a preamble to such works in the 20th century as Cubism.

And there is rarely a real line in his work. It's all just little dots.

15 posted on 06/09/2005 5:48:28 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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Once again, thank you. Could you perhaps give us all a succinct definition of the various styles followed by the more well known artists that followed that particular form? For example, define for us "realism," surrealism," "abstract," "Hudson River," "wacko-jacko," etc.


16 posted on 06/09/2005 6:25:51 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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BTW, the "Poussin" painting seems to have similarities with the Hudson River School, in that both have distorted depth and larger than life trees in the forefront.


17 posted on 06/09/2005 6:29:56 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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I not only appreciate the posted art and background material, but your learned comments are multiplying my art appreciation by a factor of a zillion.

Leni

18 posted on 06/09/2005 7:07:43 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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Cezanne is also creating depth by making foreground colors more intense (and the background colors more neutralized), and having greater value contrast in the foreground than the background. It works for me. To my eye, in that second landscape, with the brownish green foliage (forgot the artist's name and can't look back right now), some of the background trees look much too dark. It doesn't convey either a sense of light or a sense of distance nearly as well as Cezanne's does.

As for conveying form with color changes rather than values, I think I read somewhere that you can convey a curve of around 40 degrees solely with changing the color, cooling it as you move away from the light, without darkening the paint at all. Seems right to me.

I see what you mean about moving towards abstraction (although I've never thought of the Impressionists that way before), but if I imagine the same paintings without recognizable objects (say, all the shapes different so that I don't see trees, mountains, fruit, etc.), it seems to me that the paintings would then just be nothing special, of no interest. It seems to me that moving towards abstraction only stays interesting to the extent that you don't actually arrive there! :)


19 posted on 06/09/2005 7:08:53 PM PDT by walden
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I admit to liking tha Matisse floral painting, but don't think it necessarily comes off very well by comparison to the 117th century De Heem, which includes lizards and bugs.

After seeing the De Heem painting, I begin to understand why there was tulip (investment) bubble in the Netherlands, with which the painting was contemporary.

20 posted on 06/09/2005 7:14:17 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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