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The Hobbit Hole XXII - ...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe
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Posted on 06/01/2005 7:12:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: HairOfTheDog

Nope! The users in our lab do not have permission to install anything. They literally cannot install such programs. But the machines are goobered up anyway.

To some extent you're right, it does cut down on the number of stuff you get if you don't click "I agree" to everything. But there's a reason we call this stuff scumware.

And good freeware doesn't have malware. I hate to say it, but look for stuff from the open source community. They don't generally do scumware. And if you're gonna download things, go with a nice Bittorrent client like Azureus, instead of evil tools like Kazaa.


5,141 posted on 06/25/2005 12:29:50 PM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
How timely: Major Advertisers Caught In Spyware Net
5,142 posted on 06/25/2005 12:31:56 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Whatever, just crash it!)
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To: JenB
And if you're gonna download things, go with a nice Bittorrent client like Azureus, instead of evil tools like Kazaa.

I don't use anything now, I only did one time... for that original batch of cookies way back when. Anything we find now ecurbh downloads, and I don't even know where he gets it. Mysterious places without names, I think :~D

5,143 posted on 06/25/2005 12:31:59 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
To some extent you're right, it does cut down on the number of stuff you get if you don't click "I agree" to everything. But there's a reason we call this stuff scumware.

I just don't understand why everyone else gets so infected with stuff and I see none of it. And folk who install every kind of free scanner find it all over.

I also don't get spam, and have only one email address, the same one I've had for years. Either this stuff doesn't really exist, or people are letting it in and feeding it. Or there is ~something~ I am doing right.

5,144 posted on 06/25/2005 12:35:13 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; JenB; Bear_in_RoseBear
No, I don't think it is freeware related... I download and try quite a bit of freeware, and have no problems.

Just for giggles, I downloaded Adaware and Spybot this morning to see what they would find.

Adaware only found a half-dozen registry keys for Alexa (Is Alexa spyware?).

Spybot only found 2 cookies (which are NOT spyware ;~D).

Other than the previously mentioned Kazaa/Gator issue, I have never had problems with adware or spyware, and without firsthand experience, I just have trouble believing the problem is really all that widespread.

5,145 posted on 06/25/2005 12:36:16 PM PDT by ecurbh
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To: HairOfTheDog
Or there is ~something~ I am doing right.

I'm guessing there are at least two things you're doing right: Not visiting "questionable" websites and not advertising your email address on a website.

Spammers actively "crawl" websites looking for "mailto:" html references, and then add the email address to their list of recipients for spam.

5,146 posted on 06/25/2005 12:40:07 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Whatever, just crash it!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I also don't get spam, and have only one email address, the same one I've had for years. Either this stuff doesn't really exist, or people are letting it in and feeding it.

Well, spam I do KNOW exists - I get plenty of it, mostly to the email addresses that are listed publicly on my websites. I have a personal address that I keep for personal correspondence, and that stays clean. And I have a yahoo address that I use just for signing up to online things - registering for forums, newsletters, and such - and that gets a TON of spam, but yahoo has pretty good filtering, so I only have to manually delete a few message a week that get through.

5,147 posted on 06/25/2005 12:42:44 PM PDT by ecurbh
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

What about my HairOfTheDog@FR addy that is here on my profile? That forwards to my home address....

We have mail links on our blog, but ecurbh has them coded I guess so they can't be crawled.

I do think it has to do with enrolling places, signing up for things, who in turn sell the address. I'm somewhat reluctant to enroll for things, but I do when I need to. I've gotten lucky I guess, when I've opted out of contact, the places I've enrolled at have respected that.


5,148 posted on 06/25/2005 12:44:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
Either this stuff doesn't really exist, or people are letting it in and feeding it.

OK - I know spam exists.... what I should have said is, I think it doesn't mysteriously appear.... I think people sign up for it. Intentionally or not.

5,149 posted on 06/25/2005 12:48:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
What about my HairOfTheDog@FR addy that is here on my profile?

It's not an active link, so no "mailto:" html code. Some crawlers are smart enough to look for a character string of the type "name@adress" within a webpage, but that can result in a lot of bad hits, so most rely on finding a "mailto:" code.

5,150 posted on 06/25/2005 12:49:12 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Whatever, just crash it!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Sometimes yes. Spammers also really, really love those stupid email jokes that people forward - they'll harvest alllll those addresses.


5,151 posted on 06/25/2005 12:50:41 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

And sell them to the aliens.... so they know where to pick you up ;~D right? :~D


5,152 posted on 06/25/2005 1:05:06 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I'm not joking... not tinfoil, either. It's why I get mad when people forward me inane jokes even after I've asked them not to, or to at least use bcc.


5,153 posted on 06/25/2005 1:09:33 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Overtaxed
And then there were none.

You know how in the movie, as was mentioned in the book, the rushing river looks like white horses which overwhelm the Black Riders? In the soundtrack, there is a swell of horns that suggests those horses, and then diminishes with just cellos and basses to suggest the water as it levels off. I love that part, and can see in my mind those white horses charging, but in the movie, that music is not used at all!! I was astounded the first time I saw the movie after having listened to the soundtrack! It is such a perfect fit!

5,154 posted on 06/25/2005 1:40:38 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Overtaxed
Yikes! 100 in TheSunRoom

Did you ever get a ceiling fan in there? If so, lower the top half of the double hung windows and fire that sucker up!

5,155 posted on 06/25/2005 1:50:00 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

That's with all the doors open and the fan on medium.


5,156 posted on 06/25/2005 1:52:04 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB

We're having to run into town for a bit.... we'll be late for the start of ROTK.... but will catch up when we get back.


5,157 posted on 06/25/2005 2:48:16 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

We'll start it when there's a couple people in the chat. If everyone's running late...


5,158 posted on 06/25/2005 2:49:36 PM PDT by JenB
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To: ecurbh

Please add me to the the Ring-Ping list.

Momaw


5,159 posted on 06/25/2005 2:53:16 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: JenB; All

I have to remember to clean the discs first so they won't freeze. :)


5,160 posted on 06/25/2005 2:53:32 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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