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Microsoft Vs Unix: Its a tie for the first time
Financial Express ^ | May 28, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 05/31/2005 9:06:31 AM PDT by Bush2000

Windows computer servers tie with Unix in revenue

The worldwide computer server market grew 5.3 per cent to $12.1 billion in the first quarter, with revenue for servers running the Microsoft Corp Windows operating system equalling that of Unix servers for the first time, market research firm IDC said on Friday.

Revenue for Windows servers grew 12.3 per cent to $4.2 billion in the quarter while unit shipments grew 10.7 per cent. Unix servers saw 2.8 per cent revenue growth to $4.2 billion while unit shipments increased 5 per cent.

"The equal level of spending in both segments this quarter showed that Windows servers are gaining traction in the enterprise server space with a combination of deeper investment and richer configurations," said Jean Bozman, vice president of Enterprise Computing.

IDC said that overall server revenue grew for the eighth consecutive quarter as customers invest further in new infrastructure.

(Excerpt) Read more at financialexpress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; unix; windows
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To: antiRepublicrat
They're getting there.

Absolutely. I'd expect Apple to crack 1% of the server market in another decade.
21 posted on 05/31/2005 11:28:08 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
The difference is this, I have had good things to say about MS in this forum, and windows (in particular 2003). I have also had bad things to say about FireFox, IBM, and others.

Do I tend to fall on the pro-Linux side? sure but its more because of a particular issue than blind loyalty.

22 posted on 05/31/2005 12:03:05 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle
- and Linux has no hope of catching it, according to market researcher IDC.

Didn't they say the same thing about Novell in the early and mid '90's? Look at the market share index. Linux is gaining market share. M$ will begin full scale panic when Linux is gaining market share and Windows start losing it. IDC is a short view publication. Keep watching.

23 posted on 05/31/2005 12:19:24 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: Golden Eagle
- and Linux has no hope of catching it, according to market researcher IDC.

Didn't they say the same thing about Novell in the early and mid '90's? Look at the market share index. Linux is gaining market share. M$ will begin full scale panic when Linux is gaining market share and Windows start losing it. IDC is a short view publication. Keep watching.

24 posted on 05/31/2005 12:19:42 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

M$ and Linux vendors haven't truly met head-to-head yet. If you study the market dynamics, it becomes clear that any gains made by Linux in the market are being made at the expense of old-guard Unix (AIX, HPUX, Solaris, etc). Despite that, M$ is ALSO gaining market share -- and not just a little ... we're talking about 10.7% growth. Eventually, M$ and Linux are going to be facing one another with practically no proprietary Unix standing between them. So the real test will come from market growth. Who will it tip to: M$ or Linux? Nobody knows. But clearly, you might want to temper your enthusiasm, because Windows is returning extremely solid results.


25 posted on 05/31/2005 12:38:37 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000
Absolutely. I'd expect Apple to crack 1% of the server market in another decade.

Probably sooner, depending on the strength of Linux, since that's its main competition for TCO/performance. Windows servers don't come close. For a smart CIO, the best reasons to go Windows are lock-in related. But that's their fault for going with Microsoft in the first place.

26 posted on 05/31/2005 12:53:42 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000
M$ and Linux vendors haven't truly met head-to-head yet.

Munich, Germany. MS lost to IBM even though they dipped into their "Never lose to Linux" fund to cut prices. They still haven't figured out that it's not all about money, but about freedom too (recent study showed companies moving to Linux because of freedom, not cost).

27 posted on 05/31/2005 1:11:48 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ClearCase_guy
So last quarter, Unix revenue was about $4.1 billion; Windows $3.7 billion and Linux $.9 billion -- giving the *nixs $5 billion.

This year Windows revnue is $4.2 billion while the *nixs are are $5.4 billion so the Windows share of revenue vs. *nixs gained a couple of percent.

BUT, I'd be surprised if that increase held true for the number of servers running the .nixs vs. Windows.

28 posted on 05/31/2005 2:23:33 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Only1choice____Freedom; Tribune7

According to this recent report (and others I've seen the last few years) Windows Server shipments are holding steady at ~70%. If you do the math on the other figures provided, Linux shipments are ~20%. That's quite a hill to climb, and according to the estimate the Linux shipments are expected to plateau at about 25%, probably about right, and likely at the further expense of Unix, not Windows.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/050527/20/ui21.html


29 posted on 05/31/2005 3:20:09 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3

Dells are almost infinitely customizable and cheap. Good Dell throw-away boxes are in the $400 range.

I got a 2.8 gig Intel/Dell box with WinXP Pro for $359, including a 52X CD and an 80 gig hard drive. The motherboard has built-in video and sound and no AGP slot. That means it won't run DirectX 9 games.

Of course, my Mac Mini cost me $529 and it won't run DirectX 9 games either. My Linux box cost me $199 from Wally-World and has the same problem.

All three work great for standard desktop applications.

Computers, and most of the software we run are so inexpensive that training and connection costs dwarf the harware and software costs. Standardization and portability are the most important factors.


30 posted on 05/31/2005 3:32:15 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Munich, Germany. MS lost to IBM even though they dipped into their "Never lose to Linux" fund to cut prices.

IBM undercut MS by throwing in free consulting -- essentially enticing Munich officials at below cost. MS wasn't competing head-to-head with IBM. And this shows how far off IBM's Fantasyland cost projections were... They still haven't figured out that it's not all about money, but about freedom too (recent study showed companies moving to Linux because of freedom, not cost).

Munich clearly thought it was mostly about money, though, because they were severely pissed off when IBM back-doored them with cost overruns.
31 posted on 05/31/2005 4:18:09 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Tribune7
BUT, I'd be surprised if that increase held true for the number of servers running the .nixs vs. Windows.

Great point, especially with Linux in the mix..

32 posted on 05/31/2005 4:20:12 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Bush2000
Nice Link.

Europeans have an affinity for Linux because it was created by a Finn, Linus Torvalds. And the communitarian culture of the open-source movement strikes a chord with the political Left. "There's an attraction to a business model that is closer to utopian socialism," says François Bancilhon, chief executive of Paris-based Linux software maker Mandrakesoft, which sells and supports Linux software.

33 posted on 05/31/2005 4:24:59 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Poser
And Apple good throw away boxes are not much more. On top of that I have about the same options that you have at dell..

the OP said "Macs are like Henry Ford's Model T color selection." My point was I have the same options at dell.com that I do at the apple store. Cost is a touch more but options are the same..

34 posted on 05/31/2005 4:26:38 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Golden Eagle

I dont give a rats behind why the euro's use Linux I use it because it makes my shop run better..


35 posted on 05/31/2005 4:28:11 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: N3WBI3

What's a great point, the fact that as Linux replaces Unix, the *nix revenue as a whole falls as a percentage of IT spending? You won't think it's so great if the layoffs at IBM and OSDL continue, or had you not noticed?


36 posted on 05/31/2005 4:28:14 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

The Linux guys will applaud themselves out of a job: "Yay, open source! Where's my pink slip?"


37 posted on 05/31/2005 4:30:32 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: N3WBI3
I dont give a rats behind why the euro's use Linux I use it because it makes my shop run better..

You lay down with dogs, you get fleas...
38 posted on 05/31/2005 4:31:49 PM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: N3WBI3
I dont give a rats behind why the euro's use Linux

I noticed. You've also ignored the obvious ties to the DNC here in the states as well.

39 posted on 05/31/2005 4:32:33 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000
The Linux guys will applaud themselves out of a job: "Yay, open source! Where's my pink slip?"

If software being developed by programmers for free is their master plan, layoffs are just an obvious part of the process.

40 posted on 05/31/2005 4:34:39 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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