Posted on 05/25/2005 4:42:33 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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LOL! OH Molly, thanks for the laugh, and I know you are stating that ruefully, but it struck me funny and I needed the giggle.
I have Osama Obama and Dick Dur binLadin. Can you see my eyes rolling? :^)
No freaking way.....no way...real tears?
He DID?! Must've happened when I decided I had better be sociable, quit freeping and streaming talk radio, and go visit with the inlaws. What a wuss....
Thank you very much for your posts. I am giving them much consideration.
I missed it also prairie....must have been a heck of a sight.
Kay ~~ Thank you. Snowdrop is one of my very favorite flowers, sorely missed in CA!
You'd never see Boxer bawling on a congressional floor that's for sure. Nancy Pelosi maybe....:^)
I'm off for the evening. Good night folks and rest easy. It'll all work out.
Yes. It may not work out to our liking, but it will work out.
I have a scribbled sticky note on my desk, hijacked from who knows where that puts it all in perspective.
It's better to have someone inside the tent P!$$ing Out, rather than having them outside the tent P!$$ing In.
McCain is really spinning the story of Hannity & Colmes.
And Bork really pulled Alan's chain tonite.
Do you remember what happened after the 2002 election. Frist had stupidly told some people that Bush was going to remove Trent and make Frist the majority leader.
Just days after the election Trend called a Republican caucus and had himself elected majority leader for the next congress. That had always been done in January.. not November. That was a clear sign that Trent knew what the president was up to. It thwarted Bush's plan to replace him. Note that took the cooperation of a majority of Republican Senators to elect Trent when they knew the reason for voting in November was to thwart the Presidents wishes.
Trent also took another step to prove to President Bush he could get things done. Daschle at Trent's request called a special session in December in which they confirmed a couple of Bush's appellate court nominations. That was done with the old Senate that the Democrats still controlled. It took the votes of Democrat Senator to get that done. There were only 48 Republican Senators in December.
Bush did not like being beaten to the draw so to speak. So when Trent made some nice remarks to make his 100 year old mentor Strom Thurman feel good, Rove went to Peggy Noonan, Ann Coulter, and a few other conservative columnists and played the race card on Lott. You'll recall that Tom Daschle spoke up for Trent in that matter. Dashle said Trent was just trying to be nice to a 100 year old man near the end of his life. Bush kept quiet as the media did what it took to force Trent to resign his majority leadership. I recall it took several days after the Coulter and Noonan attacks for the MSM to start trashing Trent.
Trent was toast and I think he has just been waiting to get even. Trent accepted his demotion saying nothing negative about President Bush. That is typical of a very angry man waiting his turn to effect revenge. During 2003 Trent talked to Novak about doing an book about the President's relationship with the Senate to be published in late summer of 2004. Novak said it would be very negative. But Lott never wrote one. That may have been a fake jab to cause the President to think Trent was never going to do anything.
Removing Trent Lott was dumb move. The senate is the most exclusive club in the United States. Stick it to one of the guys on the inside and insiders from both parties will make you pay.
President Bush likes Frist and thought he would be a good candidate for President in 2008. Plus there were a couple of things the president wanted to get through congress that Trent was not in favor off putting on the docket.
In any event the administration thought getting rid of Trent was a good idea. Trents efforts to keep Gingrich's zipper from becoming a bigger story than Clinton's zipper, earned Trent the undying anger of many Republicans but the gratitude an loyalty of his fellow Senators. Trent took the heat over the 100 to zip vote to not hear any evidence against Clinton and his fellow senators appreciated it.
The problem for Bush is that nearly all Senators liked Trent and were quite angry at the way he was treated. It is worth noting that no President or party official picked Trent as Republican leader. The Senators who wanted to follow his lead picked him. George Bush picked Bill Frist. There was no ground swell of support for Frist.
But in December of 2002 President Bush had just won the senate back for Republicans. The Republican Senators went with his wishes. They dumped Trent and installed Frist. But Frist has proved incompetent and there is likely anger over the forced change of a leader in the senate.
The senate is famous for senators holding a President's desires hostage in order get what they want. Reagan had several judicial nominations held up by Senator Packwood. The price Reagan had to pay to remove the hold on Judicial nominees was what ever Packwood wanted. Reagan got his judges when the Senator got his way. Senator Packwell of sexual harassment fame did it to Reagan several times. He is not the only Senator to play hostage with bills and nominations. It is accepted behavior in the Senate. There is no downside among fellow senators for making a president of either party pay.
I have also been puzzled why Bush has not gotten involved in the nuclear option situation. If my analysis is right, then the reason is obvious. The president's removal of Lott may the reason the Rinos are leaving the reservation. There is no acceptable way for the president to fix that. That may be why the President is not involved.
All I know is what I see on C-SPAN and read into what senators say and do. But if what I see happening is accurate, Trent Lott has George Bush's private parts in a vice and is squeezing the handle. Betcha the price for instant relief is Bill Frist's head on a platter.
I may be wrong. I often am.. But one factor keeps running through my head. I have been told that Bill Frist would not lie. If he said he had 50 votes he had 50 votes. I do know one thing. No senator will tell his leadership he is going to vote Yea and then vote Nay. It is the one cardinal Senate sin. Just once can ruin a senate career. Any senator who did it would be out in the cold before the sun set. His influence would go to zero. It is THE CARDINAL SENATE SIN.
Yet some people told FRist they were with him.. and then it turned out they were not. How could that be. Only if all Seven of the Senators were in on the take down of Frist, They had to know the other 48 Republicans would not blame them for what they did.
One thing is certain if Frist did not lie about having the support for the nuclear option, then he was lied to by his fellow senators.
I think Frist has to know that a large segment of the Republican caucus was likely in on the deal to screw him.
I know. I'm paranoid .. but just because I am paranoid does not mean they are not out to get me.
Read the bloggers final entry....sad stuff.
What an interesting perspective you've given us to think about. Thank you for taking the time.
Wow! I guess the lesson I take from this is to NEVER let any of my son's old girlfriends into the house if they come looking for their fishing poles.
Holding leadership elections just a few days after the election is not unheard of, in fact, it's more the norm than you might think. It is an effort by existing leadership to retain their positions which drives it.
I just stopped by to read a bit and now I am going to make dents in the couch and knit. Love to all...B
Boy, you have me wondering about Snowe's speech about base closings today. Thank you for writing this. You've awakened me to part of the art.
Roberts pointed out that Lugar had sent a letter requesting information on an incident that had been discussed in Bolton's hearings. "For some reason," Roberts said, "Senator Rockefeller and I couldn't come to an agreement of the wording of the response. So we ended up sending two letters, one with his opinion and one with mine."
Senator Roberts then pointed out that Biden had read only Senator Rockefeller's letter in the debate, even though he had both.
He then took apart the Senators in the Bolton hearing who had talked about classified information in the public hearings. Dodd got upset and said he was being unfairly targeted, and Roberts all but told him to "talk to the hand." Then Roberts said that in his experience intelligence analysts weren't these milquetoast types who couldn't take criticism, and let it be known that he was dubious about all the whining about Bolton's demeanor.
It was most excellent, and made me proud to be a Republican.
Oh, also, apparently Frist made a good speech tonight at a conservative group. It will probably get posted as soon as a transcript is up.
Aw, lysie, that's so darn cute! Good night, sweet you.
I was gone this afternoon (out buying more plants) and didn't return until about 8:00 pm. So I missed the crying spell and now I learn I missed Pat Robert's bulldog imitation.
I've followed Robert's career since he was on the House Ag Committee nearly 20 years ago. He's a tough hombre'. The faint of heart should not cross him.
I'm so sorry I missed it. I'm sure some of his anger from yesterday was released. I'd have loved to have seen it.
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