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DEAD BEATS DADS

Posted on 05/10/2005 6:51:23 AM PDT by sarah stone

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To: Mother22
Please start posting more. Realize that there will always be a few pinheads who will call you a disruptor because it's easier than actually addressing what you've written. And there will be a case of mistaken identity from time to time.

If the flames get out of hand, mash the Abuse button and ask the mods to pour water on a few folks. Really cold stinkin' water. Melted right off the glacier kind of water.

181 posted on 05/10/2005 12:56:35 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: trussell
Yes I know I was new not too long ago. FReepers just LOOOOVE to remind everyone how new they are!

I guess I don't see it as 'hatred', it is called hazing in some parts. Seems to me that jumping all over newbies is a longstanding tradition, of which YOU are still participating!

183 posted on 05/10/2005 1:04:07 PM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: RushCrush

I very rarely jump on newbies. Most all I do is welcome the good ones and report the obvious trolls.

I wasn't hazing or jumping on you. I was trying to get you to consider giving a newbie a chance to show they can be one of us.

Some people find navigating FR to be a little difficult at first. She may have been having problems finding her way back to the thread. She may not know about the link at the top of the page that says pings. Some people think the "post" link at the top of the page is what you use to post a comment instead of an article.


185 posted on 05/10/2005 1:09:59 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: trussell

Assuming Sarah is married to a marriage counselor...One would also assume Sarah would know something about divorcing couples? Which also would involve child support and alimony issues as these are typically the biggest items couples squabble over?


186 posted on 05/10/2005 1:12:28 PM PDT by Pondman88
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To: Mother22
How can one newbie continue to be jumped all over by others, when they are too quickly labeled and then possibly banned from being here anyway?

Easy! See trussell's posts to me. I'm STILL BEING CALLED A NEWBIE and it's 10 months later. I just happened to have thicker skin than the poster who put this amazing thread together.

187 posted on 05/10/2005 1:16:21 PM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: Pondman88

I wouldn't assume that she would know all of this. It was her husband, not her who was a marriage counselor. She is not required to know how to do his job.

Would you suggest that a person married to a brain surgeon be able to person surgery also?


188 posted on 05/10/2005 1:16:57 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: trussell; RushCrush
You are making a good point Trussell!

I remember a thread posted by a FReepers friend who had just recently joined FR and accidentally posted a thread!

Every one, including me ,had put their foot in their mouth and apologized, when everything was straightened out!

I have learned from this experience and I am careful of what I say,to potential newcomers to FR!
189 posted on 05/10/2005 1:17:49 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Pondman88

My only question was, what does the current administration have to do with her marriage problems? If others don't see that as the sign of something seriously wrong with this person, then I'll be!


190 posted on 05/10/2005 1:18:06 PM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: PistolPaknMama

You have to read some of the prior posts - some people on this thread thought this woman had kid(s) out of marriage.

Do you routinely ask perfect strangers whether you should blame the federal government for your problems ? If I had these problems I'd be asking my friends, family, or neighbors for help, I wouldn't be asking about the administration's position on deadbeat dads.


191 posted on 05/10/2005 1:18:37 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

Wll from now on, I for one will never urge a newbie to respond to a thread they start. Nor will I ask any questions of said newbie. Wouldn't want to upset their sensitive newbie-bubble./liberal logic


192 posted on 05/10/2005 1:19:07 PM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: GoLightly

no argument - I've seen that too.


193 posted on 05/10/2005 1:19:29 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: RushCrush

I did not call you a newbie...I said you were new not too long ago. You read into it what you wanted. Obviously your way of justifying what you do to new posters.


194 posted on 05/10/2005 1:20:56 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: RushCrush
The funny thing is...

How does this present administration view dead beat dads? I have received no child support for 26 months, my ex husbnd is a Greek Orthodox Priest who holds a valid Marriage Counselor Licence and Mental Health Therapist.

For whatever reason, she was not given an opportunity to explain what she wrote, but read it carefully...

She never blames the current admin for her situation, and she doesn't necessarily seem to be asking for some kind of federal handout. She asks if anyone knows how the admin leans on the issue, then she briefly states her current situation. The rest of us FReepers filled in the blanks.

I've been on the forum for a while now--since '99, when my hubby first signed on. It really used to be a news/discussion forum. Not that we didn't have trolls, but we never used to stomp on newbies. We really didn't. A lot of FReepers have stopped visiting the forum because of the kind of nonsense posted on this thread and that IS a shame. Granted, the trolls are much more regular now than they were in the past--they used to come in waves, but only around elections or when something controversial was going on (Elian Gonzalez and 9/11 spring to mind).

Most of this thread was pretty tame, and most of us will see each other on future threads and everything will be cool. This forum has some bad apples, though. In my opinion, the wrong FReeper got the boot today.

Guess that's why I'm not running the show!

195 posted on 05/10/2005 5:46:40 PM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: grellis
The way I look at it is simple. I post what is on my mind, and I consider this a discussion forum of the political sort. What she posted really did not make sense to me- asking the current presidential administration what they think about child support issues? I guess it just did not compute.

Ultimately, the mods make the decision about what gets pulled and what stays. I think any complaints that long-time FReepers have about this forum should be addressed to the mods.

196 posted on 05/10/2005 6:04:48 PM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: RushCrush

Since you asked...

http://fatherhood.hhs.gov/index.shtml

This non-profit has been getting federal funds for years. It was part of the answer to help end "welfare as we know it".

http://www.fatherhood.org/2005_gala_story.asp

Did you know there was a formula giving states matching funds for child support collected? State are required to have a standard in place for their child support formulas. Making those formuals high is encouraged.

There are federal codes about collecting cross state border cases. We (the US) has signed treaties to deal with cases that involve situations that leave our borders.


197 posted on 05/10/2005 6:45:10 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: cinives

The President has talked about "deadbeat dads" in some of his speeches. Her error is a common error. Many, if not most people think that the US government is involved in collecting child support, because it is! Thing is, most people do not know which cases, why or how the federal governmemt is involved.

We'll never know if our previous poster was one of those cases that involved two states, cuz she got the boot before we could find out.


198 posted on 05/10/2005 6:54:26 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Perhaps it's an acronym. Wonder what it stands for? I've heard of POPS before, but not DADS.

There are several possibilities...

199 posted on 05/10/2005 7:03:02 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: GoLightly

Interesting; of course it would have helped if she'd replied to anyone.

What type of cases is the fed. government involved in ? I've never heard of that ? How can a case involve two states ? You can only have a primary residence in one, and it's that state that handles divorce/child support at least initially.


200 posted on 05/11/2005 5:51:14 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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