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Good Bye, Jedi, and Good Riddance (Seeing Star Wars in a New Way)
The Sith Order ^ | May 9, 2005 | Darth Groznii

Posted on 05/08/2005 11:25:32 PM PDT by MadIvan

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Episode III is going to be a lot of fun.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 05/08/2005 11:25:33 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; EggsAckley; dinasour; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/08/2005 11:25:53 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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FRIGGIN REVISIONIST HISTORY! HOW DARE you question the established history of the Jedi as brave and noble warriors who fought like hell to preserve the Republic!

There are a few folks already camped out at the theater that is three blocks from my apartment. I couldn't get seats to the first showing, but will see it on Friday.

3 posted on 05/08/2005 11:29:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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I'm just upset that Gran Moff Tarkin's character was not more developed, either in the Prequels (where he is nowhere to be found) or in A New Hope. Peter Cushing was well cast.
4 posted on 05/08/2005 11:30:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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Apparently he makes an appearance in Revenge of the Sith. Not a lengthy one, but still.

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 05/08/2005 11:31:57 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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bump for later (sack time)


6 posted on 05/08/2005 11:36:43 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (If the thought of Hillary as prez doesn't make your skin crawl, it's on too tight.)
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To: MadIvan
Excellent review, Groznii. You added meaning I hadn't considered.

The one problem I have is in the acting abilities of Natalie Portman and Hayden Christensen. Talk about telephoning in your performances, I've seen cardboard cut-outs with more expression. They don't have anything like the charm of Han Solo and Princess Leia. Even Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker was infinitely more interesting than Christensen's portrayal of his father as a young man.

Oh, well, I'll go see it and hope they've improved.:)

7 posted on 05/08/2005 11:53:28 PM PDT by xJones
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The Jedi Order’s mistakes in dealing with Anakin Skywalker are numerous and damning. First, the Order was aware from the very start that Anakin missed his mother, yet did nothing to free her from slavery, nor did they arrange to keep an eye on her.

Hmmmm...you have a point there. Anakin is sort of like Benedict Arnold: You still know he's an evil, traitorous bastard, but when you learn what he went through, you think, "Ah, well he was justified in being ticked off, he just took it way too far."

8 posted on 05/09/2005 5:23:08 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Free Testaclese!!! http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/sommers200505020808.asp)
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I thought I was reading about the United Nations, what with turning their backs on slavery and general incompetence.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 7:20:59 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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Will Cushing be snipped from another film or entirely computer recreated? If they can "make" Jar Jar, they can create a virtual actor based on a real person.


10 posted on 05/09/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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It's my understanding that they got a younger actor - it's only a walk on part. Kind of a pity, really.

Regards, Ivan


11 posted on 05/09/2005 7:26:59 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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I've experienced many of these inconsistencies too. This provides a good explanation why I quit the Jedi and opened a little bar on an uncharted planet out on The Rim.


12 posted on 05/09/2005 7:43:27 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Great article, Darth Groznii! :D

Now that I have groveled...can I have my lightsaber back?

...please?

best regards,
Alkhin, who is NOT a committee, btw

13 posted on 05/09/2005 7:51:33 AM PDT by Alkhin (Some people are so heavenly minded they are no earthly good.)
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You know, if Annakin is such a badass, how come he can't shoot that cool lightning from his fingers?
14 posted on 05/09/2005 9:44:20 AM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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I've always thought it was pretty obvious that they should never have accepted Anakin in the first place, since he was destined to 'balance the force.' Look around at the first episode, the Jedi are ascendant and the only Sith we know about is Darth Maul, (and the shadowy Palpatine).

So, how does the force get balanced? Well, it's obvious that the Jedi have to be cut down to size while the Sith must grow in power. Lo, and behold that's exactly what happens. Duh.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 4:08:03 PM PDT by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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The BIGGEST mistake the Jedi Council made was not killing off Jar Jar Binks in Episode 1...


16 posted on 05/09/2005 5:07:36 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Make welfare as hard to get as a building permit)
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But what is "balance" with diversity? Who are we to "judge" those who live on the dark side? Did they "choose" to be that way or is it how they are born? < /PC sounding sarcasm >


17 posted on 05/09/2005 8:09:15 PM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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In all fairness, all of the valid points made in this critique can be laid at the feet of George Lucas' absurd plot for episode one, as it relates to the background of the anakin character and the way the council dealt with him.

Competent writing from the start with some realistic situational conflicts would have made a lot of this article null.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 9:54:43 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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I'm just upset that Gran Moff Tarkin's character was not more developed, either in the Prequels (where he is nowhere to be found) or in A New Hope. Peter Cushing was well cast

Unfortently Tarkin is only seen at the end. It is too bad. From what I read about him in the SW character book he is a villain up even more ruthless than Darth Vader. He once landed a Star Destroyer on top of a crowd of hundreds of thousands of people, crushing them to death.

19 posted on 05/10/2005 6:09:09 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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They don't have anything like the charm of Han Solo and Princess Leia.

That is by far my biggest complaint of the prequels.

20 posted on 05/10/2005 6:10:51 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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