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To: Antoninus

I was clearly a victim of dorks that love to condemn people and called themselves Christian. But the truth is the constant condemners aren't really Christians, they don't follow any of the rules. They pretend to know God's will by telling people what kind of music He will and won't accept you listening to, they judge constantly and react very aggresively when judged, they don't attempt to teach.

No I wasn't a societal outcast, I found myself a society, gamers and metal heads. No I chanel my annoyance at the constant condemners in a simple mission: to point out what a bunch of hypocritical assholes they are. I have no problem with Fundamentalists or Catholics, so long as they actually understand the teaching and don't constantly condemn people just because they have different tastes in entertainment.

No you were never in my shoes, you were one of those screwed up kids I mentioined a while ago. You were a wreck going down the wrong path before you ever discovered gaming or metal and now you blame the gaming and the metal, but if you honestly assessed you'd aknowledge the truth, you were on that path before. And I can see it in one sentence " It's amusing now to remember how seriously I took it all at the time", I don't take it serious, it's fun stuff to pass the time, enjoyable music to keep me energized at work, and the method I've used to develop most of my important friendships in life. I listen to Spinal Tap just to make sure I DON'T take it seriously. The only part of the whole thing I take seriously is how people like YOU drive metal fans and gamers away from the faith, people driving others away from the faith is serious, harmless forms of entertainment are not, and anybody that took them serious was a screwed up kid on the path ruin.

I'm 35 years old, married for 13 years, well respected in the local area of my field for my skills, paid hansomely, and not in debt. I think as a man, I understand as a man, and I entertain myself with things made by men. Deal with it.


178 posted on 04/27/2005 8:06:32 AM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu
No you were never in my shoes, you were one of those screwed up kids I mentioined a while ago. You were a wreck going down the wrong path before you ever discovered gaming or metal and now you blame the gaming and the metal, but if you honestly assessed you'd aknowledge the truth, you were on that path before.

Nope. You can make that assumption all you want and you can shout it from the roof-tops. But the fact of the matter is, you're wrong. This stuff DOES lead good kids down the wrong path. Those with problems at home are particularly vulnerable, but even those from great homes can be led astray. I have a sister-in-law that proves this point.

And I can see it in one sentence " It's amusing now to remember how seriously I took it all at the time", I don't take it serious, it's fun stuff to pass the time, enjoyable music to keep me energized at work, and the method I've used to develop most of my important friendships in life.

You claim you don't take it seriously, and yet your reaction to my criticisms of the world of fandom border on hysterical. Who am I supposed to believe, you or my lyin' eyes?

The only part of the whole thing I take seriously is how people like YOU drive metal fans and gamers away from the faith, people driving others away from the faith is serious, harmless forms of entertainment are not, and anybody that took them serious was a screwed up kid on the path ruin.

You keep saying that as if it has any authority at all outside of the hackneyed Iron Maiden song "Holy Smoke" which you're parrotting. In fact, I am the antithesis of you. I needed Christianity applied with a sledge-hammer in order to help me see through the nonsense that was the world of gaming, fandom, metal music, and bad fantasy writing. Two things pulled me out of that alternate reality: St. Augustine's Confessions and a couple of really strong, really knowledgeable Catholic priests who applied Catholic catechesis without apology.

I'm 35 years old, married for 13 years, well respected in the local area of my field for my skills, paid hansomely, and not in debt. I think as a man, I understand as a man, and I entertain myself with things made by men. Deal with it.

Age is not necessarily an indicator of maturity. There are plenty of 30-something adolescents running around out there. Clearly, you have done nicely for yourself in this world--as the Prince of This World would no doubt recognize. But if you are truly a Christian, you must be preparing for the next world as well, right? Or does this more accurately reflect your sentiments on the matter?

I don't feel ready, there's so much left undone,
And it's my soul and I'm not gonna let it get away.

Chorus:
Heaven can wait,
Heaven can wait,
Heaven can wait,
Heaven can wait til another day.

I have a lust for the Earth below
And Hell itself is my only foe,
'Cause I've no fear of dying,
I'll go when I'm good and ready,
I snatch a glimpse of the light's eternal rays,
I see a tunnel, I stand amazed,
At all of the people standing there in front of me,
Into the paths of rightness I'll be led,
Is this the place where the living join the dead?
I wish I knew this was only just a nightmare.
182 posted on 04/27/2005 11:44:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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