Discrediting God with the Bible (answersingenesis.org promoting evolution via UFOs)

answersingenesis, Gary Bates ^

[Truth666]

From AiG

Up-to-date information that every modern Christian must know!

Little green men? Flying saucers? No longer relegated to the lunatic fringe, the search for alien life has taken the world by storm. In this shocking book, UFO researcher Gary Bates exposes truths that will change readers forever. Written with the non-Christian in mind, this book leads the reader inexorably to one conclusion: there is an “intergalactic” battle over the history of life in the universe. Eye-opening insights ... for you and your non-Christian friends! Great pre-evangelism tool.

From the publisher

“One of the most haunting and persistent mysteries of our time”

Program Details

Gary Bates was featured on Art Bell’s nationally syndicated radio program Coast to Coast, hosted by George Noory.

• UFOs sighted in every country
• Suicides in the cults
• Alien abductions?
• Crop circles
• Government cover-ups?
• Ancient astronauts?

 

[Gles]

I e-mailed them a copy of your post and suggested they may want to change that page.

[Finny]

FWIW, I'm reading a biography by one of the original seven Mercury astronauts, Gordon Cooper. He is and has always been a deeply Christian man with great faith in God. He states flatly that the U.S. government has covered up the truth about UFOs, and that he, Gordon Cooper, saw them and chased them himself in fighter jets; knows dozens of highly placed, credible and trustworthy military folks who've seen UFOs; has one trusted friend who HANDLED the debris found at Roswell and swore to Cooper that there was no way possible that it was from a weather balloon; and that Cooper himself saw negatives of photographs taken by a team of professional photographers working for him at Edward AFB, of a UFO that landed some 50 yards away from them AT EDWARDS(!). Cooper immediately called a special number at the Pentagon to report the incident (before the photographers had done anything with their film), and was ordered to have the film developed, NOT TO HAVE PRINTS MADE, and to send it immediately to the Pentagon. Cooper said that while he had to follow orders about not having prints made, nothing was said about not looking at the negatives, so he peeked ... and was left with ZERO DOUBT as to what his photographers saw, as he, Cooper, had chased such objects often enough in the early 50s in Sabrejets.

Cooper notes in his book that he has never had a problem squaring science with religion, and that his observations as an astronaut and flyer have only increased his wonder at God's miracles and the ways He performs them. He wrote that it seemed pretty unlikely to him that God would create this vast universe and populate only the Earth with beings.

Through this book I've learned that one of my favorite movies, "The Right Stuff," did a diservice to both Gus Grissom and Cooper. The movie implies that there is still lingering doubt as to what caused the hatch to blow on Grissom's capsule, which sunk after splashdown, and leaves viewers with the idea that Grissom "screwed the pooch" by panicking; according to Cooper, NASA discovered a few weeks later that it was unquestionably a flaw in the hatch mechanism that was responsible for the accident. The movie also completely ignores Cooper's faith in God, giving the impression that he was at best indifferent to Christianity.

[TheBigB]

What a positively erudite and Christian remark. :)

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my copy of How to Fake Your Own Existence and Get the Kookburgers to Believe It!

[BenLurkin]

"THE VERY FRINGE ORGS, PUBLICATIONS, broadsides, pamphlets, leaflets etc. MOST ACCURATELY and EARLIEST predicted who Hitler was and would become and what he would do"

You mean like FATHER COUGHLIN? http://www.radiomemories.com/radiomemories/fathercoughlin.html

[Quix]

You seem to have an off-the-scale

'threatened by difference'

factor hidden amongst your wickets.

[Quix]

Knee jerk responses to cursory data are often unwise. Especially when dealing with UFO's and/or Christianity.

One merely has to scratch the surface of that site to realize they are quite orthodox Christian and hostile to evolution.

Why didn't you scratch the surface before assailing the book?
Aren't you interested in the truth, Truth666?

[Quix]

Interestingly,

One large craft reportedly gave a young adult male a joyride a long distance up the California geography and back. And maybe out in space a fair distance.

At some point, the ET's asked the man if he wanted to pay his respects to the deity.

He asked--WHICH ONE?

They said that there was only one. And showed him to a small sparsely furnished chapel. He said he'd never felt closer to God than he did there. He wasn't walking characteristically close to God usually, as I recall.

Perhaps that ship had ET's submitted to God. I think most are in cahoots with satan in the short term. I think they are part of ALL CREATION GROANS, EAGERLY AWAITING AND EXPECTING, HOPING FOR THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS OF GOD. Whatever that will turn out to mean, it must mean the ruling and reigning with Christ that we are slated for.

[Quix]

Your face is going to be very interesting when they first become routinely overtly involved in our geopolitical affairs.

[Quix]

No. But he does seem to have a lot of the ET races in cahoots with him for the end times deceptions to set up the globalist tyrannical government.

[Liberal Classic]

Somewhere over the rainbow, the Raelians are cheering.

[Truth666]

The truth's basics are now too obvious. So I'm more interesting in finding out if 1% of lies are used to discredit the other 99% truth.

[Quix]

Oh yeah,

Everyone who appears on Coast to Coast is

1,000% automatically, totally and always

absolute lying looney toons because MEGoody says so.

Always, in every case, on every topic, in all respects.

MEGoody KNOWS!

cue twilight Zone music.

[Quix]

Fiction and

fringe areas of reality are not always identical..

Sometimes fringe areas of reality are just that--fringe areas of REALity.

[Quix]

Oh, yeah,

Everyone who appears on Art Bell is 100% bonkers

because MEGoody's fear response couldn't stand it otherwise.

[Quix]

UFO PING LIST PING.

Please let me know if you want on or off the ping list.

Address your msg also to Las Vegas Dave who keeps the backup list.

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This post is quite askew of reality because Truth666 didn't bother to scratch the surface of the site enough to realize that he wasn't being at all truthful about the author's fierce support of Christianity against evolution.

However, the thread could become a bit interesting in the usual sorts of ways. I don't know if any new information will show up or not.

[job]

I read something onetime from Fermi? I think, when he was asked whether he believed in UFO/ETs/life from outer space visiting us here? His response (IIRC) was to pose the question where do they come from?

This is a really interesting response. If the closest Solar System is 1 MM+ (or 100K) light years away, and assuming one could physically travel at the speed of light (with conventional wisdom saying it can't physically be done) then the organisms from the next closest solar system would have to live over a 100K or 1MM just in travel time (the longest vacation drive ever).

If you next close off that life had to come from within our solar system, we will probably within the next 100 years be able to see live shots of every planet in our solar system. But we know enough right now that none of the planets or satellites contain the environmental conditions to sustain any organic life that we currently conceive.

For me, this argument was dispositive of the issue. Anyone have any comments on this proposition?

[Quix]

Thanks tons. Much appreciated.

That's more of Cooper's report than I've ever read anywhere. Haven't gotten nor read his book.

I have long believed he was telling the truth, however.

[Quix]

Christians can call a spade a spade when fitting.

You make it easy.

Do you enjoy calling Astronaut Gordon Cooper a liar?

[redgolum]

This is assuming that we understand physics enough to say that the speed of light can not be broken. Remember, Classical Physics did not allow for things like quantum theory. That is why Einstein was at first ridiculed by the older physicists. His ideas were not possible according to the theories of that time.

[Quix]

Not familiar with him. Will try and check it out.

Thanks.