Could Judge Greer Order Teresa Schiavo to be Shot?

vanity | March 27, 2005 | Jim Noble

[Jim Noble]

It's been pointed out on another thread that the judge in Florida has ordered nothing by mouth for Terri Schiavo.

First: Is this true?

Second: If so, what is the authority for such an order? Removal of a feeding tube, I can understand, under certain circumstances. This may even be legal in Florida.

But nothing by mouth? This is an order to kill her.

Where does this power come from? Could he order her shot? Could he order a lethal injection?

If not, is it possible that his order is facially illegal?

[AntiGuv]

Where does this power come from?

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it derives from the fact that she would almost certainly choke to death, and the law usually requires that one not increase suffering of those who have chosen to terminate life support (even though they're going to die).

[Tax Government]

Thanks for keeping alive the discussion of Terri.

[F.J. Mitchell]

There are other threads here on FR-and possibly other sites out there somewhere. No one is violating your rights by talking about this abused and dying young woman.

[thoughtomator]

The sources of Greer's authority:

1) His own word
2) The Pinellas County Police Department
3) Unanimous consent of the rest of the judicial branch
4) Hospice murderers to carry out the deed

[COEXERJ145]

I wasn't wrong when I said all discussion is going downhill at this point.

We had a thread of close to 300 replies discussing how some people are letting their emotions overload their brains and the mods pulled it. There wasn't any name calling or personal attacks but I guess if enough people complain...

[the Deejay]

An absolutely dopey thread.

You said it.

[cyborg]

I foresee more threads getting pulled.

[thoughtomator]

Oh also add

5) A pro-death MSM doing its best to make sure nobody really understands what is going on here

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

No, you weren't. Just when you thought it couldn't get more absurd...

[Lexinom]

Excellently said. I don't know where you come down on the debate, but the fact is a representative represents. We are all, to a greater or lesser degree, culpable simply by virtue of this representation. American individualism especially has blinded the great majority to this truth. For that reason, your comments stand out.

[COEXERJ145]

I foresee more threads getting pulled.

As long as the threads are like this, they'll remain.

[YOUGOTIT]

A judge can order just about anything just as he told the Florida elected Senate and House that they would be held in contempt if they tried any thing. If you are held in contempt you can be arrested and held forever without trial in direct violation of the Constitution. But then they do not care about the Constitution anyway.

In Florida the police have the authority to shoot and kill for just about any reason. And have done so. There are many instances of unarmed people being killed and nothing is ever done.

[Liberator]

Jimmy-Boy...What a DUMB, misleading title for a thread.

Dear FR Mods -- please dump this alcohol sodden thread. It's wasting more bandwidth...

[bperiwinkle7]

Yes, believe it or not, she was not to receive anything by mouth to prevent choking............

And for the rest of you friends who have tired of this discussion, i would say you should be tolerant a little while longer. Wait till she is dead and our sorrow can get no deeper. would you make fun of people at a wake? why make fun of someone in their grief?

[the invisib1e hand]

I think I got drawn into this one...

[FreedomSurge]

For everyone who desired Teri to be dehydrated and starved unto death:

Would you have been willing to smother her with a pillow until she died?

If not why not? I have no problem stepping on a roach but I would kill a dog only with great need.

If you think she only has the rights of an insect, why wouldn't you volunteer to kill her yourself.

[Earthdweller]

"Could he order a lethal injection.."

Your wish was being granted as you typed.

Morphine....kills people who are as severely dehydrated as Terri at lightening speed.

ZOT!!!

[zarf]

I want to thank you for sticking my neck out
I know I’ll be there when they let the cranks out
I won’t be culpable, got too much to answer for ooo oooh
My heart is in a can, my neck is in your hands
You wanted a family man but I’m not relating
I’ll never be arranged I’d rather be estranged, I don’t care, I don’t care

Second cousin to the poor relation,
Holding last week’s ticket in this week’s train station
Relegated to the third division on the lunatic fringe

We’re not on any team not after what I’ve seen
All that back slapping makes me want to scream
I’ll just be feeling low, waiting for the final whistle to blow oo oo ooh
They’re beating metal, outside this window
I’m getting a kick out of every hammer blow
I know I can’t escape it until I’ve been reshapen
I’m on the I’m on the...

Second cousin to the poor relation,
Holding last week’s ticket in this week’s train station
Relegated to the third division on the lunatic fringe

They’re pumping iron down in the village
They’re locking lions up in the zoo
I don’t know what I’m thinking I don’t know where I’m sinking
Down there, down there
Second cousin to the poor relation,
Holding last week’s ticket in this week’s train station
Relegated to the third division on the lunatic fringe

On the lunatic fringe, on the lunatic fringe, on the lunatic fringe,

[YOUGOTIT]

The maintenance of the Constitution is the only thing that is important for this nation. If the judges have taken over and trashed the Constitution we need to talk about and do something about it by writing our elected WIMPS and asking if they will reassert their power under the Constitution. The Germany People looked the other way when the invalids were first killed and the number continued to mount to somewhere around 7,000,000.

[the invisib1e hand]

was shooting for the Red Ryder "Lunatic Fringe." Seems to be much more appropos. Don't quite follow what you've posted...