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I think the government and the parents are the villain...

Am I in the wrong? As a good conservative I thought we were fighting for limited government and privacy rights.

Am I wrong?

I thought we wanted government out of our lives, our bedrooms and our religious beliefs?

Am I wrong?

Why are we (conservatives) fighting for Big Government, Jeb Bush in our bed rooms and one religious view about this issue?

Does conservative church views trump conservative views on limited government?

You tell me. It doesn't in my view of conservatism.

1 posted on 03/24/2005 11:50:52 AM PST by AZ Righty
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To: AZ Righty

Government is to protect LIFE, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness. You are wrong.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 11:52:00 AM PST by Blogger
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To: AZ Righty

Poll is posted http://www.phxnews.com/, but I want to hear about your views?

Because you know I'm right, please tell me all the others are confused.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 11:52:06 AM PST by AZ Righty
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So what you're saying, is you want the government to stop prosecuting murderers.

There is NO PROOF whatsoever that substantiates the claim that Terri is choosing to die.

4 posted on 03/24/2005 11:53:35 AM PST by bikepacker67 (#)
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Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?

(50%) Her husband

(24%) The government

(14%) Her parents

(12%) The media

5 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:20 AM PST by trisham (choose life!)
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To: AZ Righty

Since when does murdering through dehydration count as 'privacy'?


6 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Gravity - Fear = SPLAT!)
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To: AZ Righty
I don't think there is a villain. It is a tragedy, plain and simple.

And I'm with you on the government intrusion bit. In any other instance everyone on this board would be furious. But the same rules don't seem to apply to this case. Yes, life is precious. But the hypocrisy of wanting the Government to intervene here, but no where else, is baffling to me.
7 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:11 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: AZ Righty
I think the government and the parents are the villain...

How are the parents the villian? I can understand your problem with the involvement of the Feds, but you can't blame the parents for that.

9 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:33 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Am I wrong?

Yes.

10 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:43 AM PST by Jenya (Feed Terri Shiavo. Starve her husband.)
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To: AZ Righty
As a good conservative I thought we were fighting for limited government and privacy rights.

Show me where the U.S. Congress overstepped their Constitutional rights?

11 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:48 AM PST by frogjerk
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Yes, AZ, you are wrong. Conservatives do believe in limited government. Accordingly, we disagree with one branch of government (the judiciary) using UNLIMITED power to kill an innocent woman. I take it, in your view of limited government, when your son-in-law beats the heck out of your daughter, the police should not intervene because that's a "private matter" in which the "limited" government should not intervene.


12 posted on 03/24/2005 11:56:01 AM PST by RepublicanCentury
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To: AZ Righty

I think you are wrong.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 11:56:27 AM PST by joyce11111
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If someone is trying to kill someone then the goverment has a duty to step in. There are plenty of reasons to examine this before pulling the plug. My blame goes to the Schindler's terrible legal team.


14 posted on 03/24/2005 11:56:31 AM PST by Borges
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Honestly, I think this ceased being a privacy case when Judge Greer got involved.


15 posted on 03/24/2005 11:57:05 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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Who's the villain? You are. You and people like you who are incapable of distinguishing between justice and intrusion. We want government to protect three things: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As for the rest, it should stay out of the way. But where justice dies, tyrannies arise.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 11:57:19 AM PST by Juan Medén
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I agree with you my friend.


18 posted on 03/24/2005 11:57:36 AM PST by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: blackbart.223; speedy; HitmanNY; NYTexan; bitt; Stellar Dendrite; Glenn; Lokibob; kellynla; ...

Sick 'em ping list! Sorry for the unabrasive intrusion into your cyber lives, but I had to ping this one.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 11:57:45 AM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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Sure, there are people who are simply opposed to the right to die in any context. I'd call this type of conservative hypocritical. But in Terri's case, I think there are many more of us who simply don't think that Michael Schaivo is trying to act in Terri's interest. There's a deep injustice being done in this particular case.

IOW, this case smells.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 11:58:02 AM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: my post)
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Yes. You're wrong.

Next!


22 posted on 03/24/2005 11:58:04 AM PST by mcg1969
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In my mind, the issue is not big vs. little gov., but simply whether the judge faithfully applied the actual law to the actual facts. I don't think he did. He twisted the facts so that they'd support what he wanted to do. That's not something a conservative can support.

As a conservative, I don't think that the government ought to override the wishes of Terri Schiavo. On the other hand, it is not at all clear to me that it is trying to do so. Just because the husband says it is, doesn't make it so. We can't give the husband sole unchecked authority to determine whether his wife lives or dies. Greer did not apply the law to the actual facts. He pretty much rubber-stamped what the husband said. No point in having a judge in the process at all if all he's going to do is rubber stamp someone else's position. He's got to do a meaningful review, and apply the law to the actual facts--not some fictional version of the facts that was invented to justify what he wanted to do anyway.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 11:58:19 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: blackbart.223; speedy; HitmanNY; NYTexan; bitt; Stellar Dendrite; Glenn; Lokibob; kellynla; ...

Sick 'em ping list! Sorry for the unabrasive intrusion into your cyber lives, but I had to ping this one.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 11:58:23 AM PST by writer33 ("In Defense of Liberty," a political thriller, being released in March)
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