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Posted on 03/21/2005 7:18:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog

Well it was a good horse dream. Most aren't. I woke up chuckling


3,721 posted on 05/07/2005 7:02:56 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle
There's only 2 kinds of pony, those that have foundered and those that haven't yet but are going to.

Oh don't say that!

Seems like the pasture is all weeds, but it's lush with them. I think we should put them in at night, just to get them off of it for 10-12 hours and eating some bland hay. We'll have another month or more of this lush stuff before it starts to dry out and then turns to dust by July.

When I check next time I'll feel for the pulse. Pony's feet were actually cooler than the others.

Any validity in this idea that I have that their feet will get hot?

3,722 posted on 05/07/2005 7:06:57 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: tuffydoodle
Did you see that race??? Wasn't it exciting!

I posted the live thread ;~D I watched it all!

3,723 posted on 05/07/2005 7:07:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: tuffydoodle

Can't cooling them down too fast cause it also?


3,724 posted on 05/07/2005 7:14:19 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

At least you know where some of it came from. I wake up sometimes and haven't a clue where my mind came up with that stuff! My dreams sometimes don't make a lick of sense, more like hallucinatory flashing images that aren't related to each other.


3,725 posted on 05/07/2005 7:16:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: CindyDawg; HairOfTheDog

Looking at George cross-eyed will make him founder.

Seriously, there are lots of reasons for founder to happen; horse drinking too much cold water when he's hot and sweaty, green grass, feed overload, road founder, the list goes on and on. Ponies are definitely the most suseptable but horses with a cresty neck are also big culprits.

Hair, it sure couldn't hurt anything to get them off the grass for a few hours a day. Yes, when they are fixing to founder their feet will be warm but George's are always warm so it's hard for me to tell if they are warmer than usual.


3,726 posted on 05/07/2005 7:18:28 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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And they can founder if they are sick with fever... something to be aware of.

I know ponies are susceptible, and Bay is a little cresty, so I think bringing them in at night and feeding them hay in the stall before turnout is good. Let them fill up on bland stuff so they are at least full and grazing slower when they do go out.


3,727 posted on 05/07/2005 7:22:16 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

We have been feeling both of their feet for hotness. I didn't know about the pulse though.


3,728 posted on 05/07/2005 7:24:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg; tuffydoodle

I just never know how careful to be, because I've never had one founder. I've known there was potentially too much grass, I've limited them when it's particularly lush, and so far so good. What I don't know is how much is too much. It's sortof like running your car on empty. You never ~really~ know how far down the needle will go until you actually run out. And you never want to actually run out.


3,729 posted on 05/07/2005 7:28:22 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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"I just never know how careful to be, because I've never had one founder. I've known there was potentially too much grass, I've limited them when it's particularly lush, and so far so good. What I don't know is how much is too much. It's sortof like running your car on empty. You never ~really~ know how far down the needle will go until you actually run out. And you never want to actually run out."

So true. I don't think you can be too careful although I've never had a horse that wasn't a pony founder. Tuffy sure could, he's fat and cresty. He's also in the barn right now because of his allergies. They've suddenly kicked up on him and he does much better in the barn. He's gonna need some prednisone come Monday morning when the vet opens.


3,730 posted on 05/07/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: HairOfTheDog

Well your pony isn't really a "pony" but more like a small horse. Maybe she isn't at as much a risk.


3,731 posted on 05/07/2005 7:34:35 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle

What's he allergic to?


3,732 posted on 05/07/2005 7:37:47 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Huh. Your right. I was reading in my raising horses book and it says don't allow to overeat on lush pastures but what is overeat? It's not like you can wait til they get sick and then back them off.


3,733 posted on 05/07/2005 7:42:23 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: HairOfTheDog

We've never been able to figure that out. Originally we thought is was flies or gnats but I have a heavy mask on him, even the ears are lined, a fly collar and a bunch of fly products on his face and he's still friggin' scratching his ears. I need to take him to Texas A & M but it's hours away and I just don't have time. Prednisone works for a couple of months but that's not a cure. (it can also cause founder, of course) I've tried antihistamines but so far, no luck. I've had some luck with blue/green algae so I'll start him back on that tomorrow and see what happens.


3,734 posted on 05/07/2005 7:44:08 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: tuffydoodle

Huh.


3,735 posted on 05/07/2005 7:45:09 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: tuffydoodle

Could it be a soap or sprays or ointments you use. Is it just in the spring/summer?


3,736 posted on 05/07/2005 7:48:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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It's worse in spring and summer but it does bother him some in the colder months. If I keep masks on him during the winter, he's fine. Hasn't been good enough for summer.

I don't think it's the products I'm using but I'm not sure. I've tried so many different things and nothing has worked a hundred percent, except the steroid. What needs to be done is the allergy testing like they do on people. Inject different substances under the skin and see what happens. He'd have to go to A & M for that.


3,737 posted on 05/07/2005 7:55:43 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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I guess this is the night for huhs:') could he be allegic to the mask? I've seen you post about A/M before. Are they open for the public or does your vet refer? One of the foals here sent there. The kid said it was expensive. I'm not so fed up that I'm thinking of taking mine there:') Just curious.


3,738 posted on 05/07/2005 8:00:18 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle

Oh, never mind about the mask. I see you say it helps.


3,739 posted on 05/07/2005 8:11:10 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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I don't think it's the mask since he wears it year round and no problems in winter.

Anyone can go to A & M but it's usually reserved for the cases that no one else can figure out. I would imagine it's very expensive but I don't know anyone who has ever taken a problem horse there. I do have one friend that donated a filly that developed some weirdo disease that horses don't get. It wasn't curable so she donated her to the school. They were happy to get her, for research.

I'm hittin' the sack, ladies, right after I wash all this horse poop and bedding off of me. I was spreading it with a spreader and it was really windy today.


3,740 posted on 05/07/2005 8:14:00 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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