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Home Birth vs. The State (for discussion)
Self | 3/11/05 | Bear_Slayer

Posted on 03/12/2005 9:13:03 AM PST by Bear_Slayer

Hypothetical scenario:

A devout Christian couple decides to home-birth.

The mid-wife is asked, "If any complications arise, do not call 911; let us pray first."

The mid-wife declines and will not assist.

The delivery date arrives and a normal healthy baby is born.

Subsequently a 2nd (unknown) twind begins to deliver. The cord is wrapped around the babies neck and it is strangling.

The father begins prayer

In this hypothetical scenario, it is unknown if the father or mother attempts to remove or cut the cord.

Susequently the 2nd child dies

A funeral is held on private property.


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To: Marie Antoinette

Utah is trying to get a bill passed called HB25. It basically makes midwifery legal. Right now a midwife in that state is not legally allowed to do anything other than catch the baby. Not even prenatal care, since it is considered medical care. When it was going through the house, one doctor claimed that he was always having to clean up the transport messes of midwives. On further questioning he admitted he had only dealt with four such transports in about twenty years. The bill passed the House and the Senate. Now a medical group has the governor hesitating and thinking of a veto on the bill.


41 posted on 03/12/2005 5:08:19 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Marie Antoinette

We usually do Josie's birthday a week or so early, Billy's birthday late, and the two little girls somewhere between the 30th and the 2nd. Maybe this year we'll throw Josie a birthday party at the big FReep in Fayetteville next Saturday.


42 posted on 03/12/2005 5:16:22 PM PST by Tax-chick (Donate to FRIENDS OF SCOUTING and ruin a liberal's day!)
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To: HungarianGypsy

That's so silly. In the military nurses, physicians assistants, and even corpsmen (paramedics, maybe) did just about everything.


43 posted on 03/12/2005 5:17:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (Donate to FRIENDS OF SCOUTING and ruin a liberal's day!)
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To: MikeinIraq

It is not uncommon for a twin pregnancy to be unknown until the second baby starts to come out, even with regular prenatal care by an obstetrician.


44 posted on 03/12/2005 6:06:58 PM PST by Restorer
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To: MikeinIraq
they are professionals and it doesn't seem as if they are doing anything wrong these days huh?

Ouch. I'm sorry you have this attitude. Doctors are doing everything right these days. Especially for them. Most do a good job, but with malpractice clouds lurking everywhere, they must play CYA as they balance patient health and liability.

Please keep this in mind as you pursue the "normal route thing" of prenatal care and birth. Much of what happens is not for the health of the mother or baby, but to reduce their liability, like ordering excessive testing or such. I think it's a good idea to have your first child in well-watched surroundings, but don't give up control of what happens.

45 posted on 03/13/2005 1:05:31 PM PST by Big Giant Head (Barring all differences, they're identical.)
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To: Big Giant Head

I know that, but look around man...babies are being born all the time....

99% of them are doing SOMETHING right....


46 posted on 03/13/2005 2:09:37 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Silly Hippies, Bush Won!!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq
I have a number of friends who do homebirth, assisted by a midwife. They've all had wonderful experiences and the children are doing very well.

I had my daughter 15 years ago and went the typical route of my ob doc, who is also an infertility expert. We had to go the medical means route to conceive. Anyway, At 32 weeks I developed toxemia and was hospitalized for 2 weeks prior to an emergency c-section...in order to save my life. My organs were shutting down and my blood pressure was 190/120 and climbing, putting me at risk for stroke/seizure. So, if I were to have gone the midwife route I very well could have died.

However, one friend developed difficulties in her pregnancy in her 5th month and the midwife advised her to seek care from a doctor. Good counsel.

I think I'm safe in saying that overall, licensed midwives are excellent birthing coaches and pregnancy care givers. The ones I know of are RN's with advanced courses in midwifery and licensed, working under the accountability of a medical doctor.

47 posted on 03/13/2005 3:27:04 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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