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Do they read "To Kill a Mockingbird" in Southern schools? It seems anti-South to me
imdb ^ | Feb 05 | Churchillbuff/Harper Lee

Posted on 02/26/2005 8:52:48 AM PST by churchillbuff

Pardon the vanity, but since there seem to be a lot of Freepers who are southerners, I thought I could solicit their perspective/experience. The family and I rented "To Kill a Mockingbird" last night. First time I'd watched it in years. A moving film, I grant you. Peck is inspiring. But let's face it, the whites (and blacks) are stereotyped. There are few whites (Atticus Finch and family, the judge, maybe the sheriff) who are anything but vile. For all the "sentimental" remembrances of her childhood by ex-Southerner Harper Lee, in fact this story is a slam on the South. So I ask: Is it read in Southern schools? If so, what do the kids take away from it: a sense of shame about their region?


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To: bourbon

Do you mean Jackson Prep?

Or JA?

My best friend graduated from the former. I can't remember if she read it. She usually bought the Cliff Notes or whatever they're called. Or she asked me. :)

I've been trying to remember what novels we read in high school. Silas Marner was one. And The Scarlet Letter. We did not have Honors or AP English my senior year at my school, and all seniors had the same CBOK requirements in all the JPS. That meant the requirements were very very few. It was NOT college preparatory.


61 posted on 02/26/2005 4:21:40 PM PST by petitfour
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To: wardaddy

lol


62 posted on 02/26/2005 4:23:32 PM PST by petitfour
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To: wardaddy; bourbon; WKB; dixiechick2000

I went to the same school as Bourbon when it was founded and I am not a Preppie.




OMG!
Is that so?
When it was founded?
Makes you sound OLD...lol.


63 posted on 02/26/2005 6:42:13 PM PST by onyx (Henry Kissinger: Asked if SoS Rice calls him, replied, "no never, she doesn't need advice.")
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To: ventana

Hey! Reading Farenheit 451 is very good. It will hopefully insure that the left wing commies will never get our society to be like that.
BTW- Sadly I can already see quite a few of those charcteristics in the world now.


64 posted on 02/26/2005 10:35:33 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.")
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To: annyokie

Hmm. I'm a Southerner but I didn't know what "common" was. Geuss I'm not a very Southerner. :<


65 posted on 02/26/2005 10:42:45 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.")
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To: onyx

Opened doors Fall 1971.


66 posted on 02/26/2005 11:00:18 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy; bourbon


I know.
Bourbon mailed me the info.
I know I'm older than you.


67 posted on 02/26/2005 11:40:30 PM PST by onyx (Henry Kissinger: Asked if SoS Rice calls him, replied, "no never, she doesn't need advice.")
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To: wardaddy

Until 1985ish some public schools in Jackson were rather decent. Then the brilliant educators at Central Office decided to implement an experiment intended to improve the level of education that ALL JPS students receive. It was called CBOK, the Common Body of Knowledge. All 11th grade history teachers in JPS were given the exact same learning objectives, and they were ordered to teach them. Multiple choice tests were made by committees of teachers, and all 11th grade history students took them until they passed. (or that was the way it was supposed to work.) For really bright students, school became a vacation. AP classes did not have CBOK curricula, but there were only a few AP classes offered at my high school. Honors classes had the same exact curricula as regular classes, and students rebelled if the teacher(s) tried to teach them any more than CBOK required. (really. i had a teacher who tried to give us more to do, but a bunch of parents said their children did not have to do the extra and could not be graded on the extra stuff.)

I vaguely recall stories of what happened in the public schools right after forced busing began. There were teenagers carrying chains and other such stuff around my high school. My neighbors' removed their children at that time and sent them to private schools. By the time my brothers and I started school, violence had subsided, and the public schools were fine. At least in my neighborhood. I do not think that my best friend, who went to JP, received a superior education at all. She was more prepared for the country club life. I have been impressed with what I have heard about JP in recent years.

You are so OLD! Just kidding.


68 posted on 02/27/2005 6:46:43 AM PST by petitfour
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To: churchillbuff; Alkhin

Yes they do. My kids had to read it and do reports on it. Freeper Alkhin was in the play about a year ago, in Houston area theater, Ft. Bend county.


69 posted on 02/27/2005 9:12:41 AM PST by buffyt (It is important to protect people from a local crime - what about an entire nation??????)
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To: churchillbuff

Yes they do. My kids had to read it and do reports on it. Freeper Aikhin was in the play about a year ago, in Houston area theater, Ft. Bend county.


70 posted on 02/27/2005 9:12:52 AM PST by buffyt (It is important to protect people from a local crime - what about an entire nation??????)
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To: cowboyway
I've never read it."""

I'm impressed. I would have been even more impressed if you said, "I never heard of it". Now THAT would be somebody uncowed and unbowed by political correctness!

71 posted on 02/27/2005 9:52:17 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Stretch
I remember also, Lester Maddox and his baseball bats, and because of that I would not go to his restaurant, """

What town was his restaurant in?

72 posted on 02/27/2005 9:53:24 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: ventana
This is the sort of tripe which falls into the category of reading for social indoctrination."""

I'm inclined to agree, which is why I brought this vanity post - - to see if I was totally out to lunch. At least one person - you - seems to sense something's up with all of the emphasis on Harper Lee's book in high school, -- somethimg other than a pure commitment to literature.

73 posted on 02/27/2005 9:56:07 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Yea, we read it back in the '70s, in Texas.

It has some slams on the South, or on the way things were done in the South back then, but mostly it is a story of a man with great personal integrity who has to go against the mainstream for what he knows is right.

The part where the Sheriff spares Bo from being a hero is also significant. The boy wants no attention and the Sheriff spares him that.

(If I made any mistakes here, forgive me. It's been 30+ years since they made me read it.)

74 posted on 02/27/2005 10:00:35 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: churchillbuff
I am old enough to have seen "White" and "Colored" signs.

We got rid of that. We kept the good stuff and trashed the cr-p. It was not easy and it came at a high price. It was worth it.

The South is stronger than ever and as beautiful as it ever could be.

75 posted on 02/27/2005 10:08:25 AM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: churchillbuff; buffyt; mstar
Thanks for the plug, buffy!!!!

churchillbuff, I think you will find that the blacks are portrayed as very dignified and decent, and the few whites that are sympathetic are ones in certain positions of power, which is important in telling the story, and indicative that society then was able to recognize the evil of the Jim Crow laws and racism and how a person's worth should not be judged by their skin color. I think the story was very realistic in showing the various attitudes and thoughts of people at the time. Southerners knew the racism was evil, but in some cases the racism so ingrained that it was easier to just live with it rather than fight against it. I really don't know how Mockingbird could be a slam against white people when it did such a good job of showing the various viewpoints that existed at the time.

You wouldn't happen to be associated with some outside forum groups seeking to infiltrate Free Republic, would you? Anyonw who reads Mockingbird and is familiar with the story and has a thinking brain comes away understanding how difficult things were then for every one. To go about looking for slams against a particular race, be it black or white, reeks of someone with an agenda.

76 posted on 02/27/2005 11:27:56 AM PST by Alkhin ("Ah-ah," admonished Pippin. "Head, blade, dead." ~ Peregrin Took, The Falcon)
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To: churchillbuff

The Pickrick in Atlanta.


77 posted on 02/27/2005 11:47:22 AM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: churchillbuff

Atticus Finch comes off as a very good man and he is quite clearly very southern. His attitude is one of fairness and I don't think that's a rare commodity anywhere among ordinary people in this country.


78 posted on 02/27/2005 11:51:56 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: churchillbuff

My aunt used to teach AP English, and she taught TKaM. She taught in a state to the south of Alabama but thoroughly infiltrated by those darn folks from up north. She taught Faulkner, too. She loved to teach literature. Especially literature written by southerners and full of interesting characters, good and bad.


79 posted on 02/27/2005 1:43:09 PM PST by petitfour
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To: LibKill

I remember the White and Colored signs on restrooms and drinking fountains. I thought that was just plain stupid even as a little kid and I would use which ever one was available. I love how you described the South. I live in Texas now.


80 posted on 02/27/2005 2:15:33 PM PST by buffyt (If it is important to protect people from a local crime - what about an entire nation?)
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