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To: SheLion
Darlene Brennan - The Smoker's Club, Inc. - New England Regional Director The United Pro Choice Smokers Rights Newsletter - http://www.smokersclubinc.com Maine Smokers Rights - http://www.geocities.com/shelioness/ mailto:darlene@maine.rr.com - Respect Freedom of Choice!

To know the medical problems of smoking, then to work to promote the death of other people is hardly something one would brag about. You are so overly concerned about your 'rights'; you are oblivious to the fact that you are killing yourself, and aiding in killing others. Now, I fancy myself a libertarian; or bluntly "I don't care what you do to yourself, you want Hashish - fine, Cocaine - fine, Cigarettes - fine". But, one would expect at a minimum one would not be in denial about what you are doing to yourself.

If your stance was "I know that cigarettes will increase my likelihood of developing lung cancer, emphysema, heart, liver and kidney disease, as well as a host of other problems; at least I could respect your decision". But simply denying these dangers exist either leads me to believe you are emotionally disturbed, or very naive'.

When the time comes when you do succumb to the effects of cigarettes; and the odds are high that you will, as you lay in the hospital saying goodbye to loved ones, just think of the scores of others you helped do the same. I'm sure you will be very proud of your accomplishements at that point in time.

115 posted on 02/22/2005 5:59:14 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; ...
To know the medical problems of smoking, then to work to promote the death of other people is hardly something one would brag about. You are so overly concerned about your 'rights'; you are oblivious to the fact that you are killing yourself, and aiding in killing others.

I will overlook the fact that you are so obviously unaware of how many groups there are like mine across the United States fighting for the rights of the people to continue to use a "legal commodity."  Can you tell me why, if tobacco is such as killer as you state, that it is still sold on the market?  Can you tell me why it is still legal?  Can you tell me why meth is not being sold over the counter since it is a REALLY known killer?  Or are you just singling out people who enjoy smoking?

If your stance was "I know that cigarettes will increase my likelihood of developing lung cancer, emphysema, heart, liver and kidney disease, as well as a host of other problems; at least I could respect your decision". But simply denying these dangers exist either leads me to believe you are emotionally disturbed, or very naive'.

You don't know that and neither do I!  When our number is up it won't matter one iota if we ever smoked a cigarette or not.  Or do you have an inside link to God????  "I" am EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED?  You sure have a lot of damn nerve.  I was thinking the same thing about YOU after reading your post.  Why the hell do YOU care if people enjoy a legal commodity or not?  For one thing, it's none of your damn business. Get over it.

When the time comes when you do succumb to the effects of cigarettes; and the odds are high that you will, as you lay in the hospital saying goodbye to loved ones, just think of the scores of others you helped do the same. I'm sure you will be very proud of your accomplishements at that point in time.

I'm SO glad you have such an inside to my future death.  Must make you feel all fuzzy and warm inside.  And sweet pea! You know nothing of me and the accomplishments I have made in my life.  You have NO CLUE. But since you want to zero in on just my crusade of fighting for Freedom of Choice, that is all you think my life is all about.  Like I said:  You know NOTHING about me.  But just by your post, I now know plenty about you!

Can I say your an idiot?

116 posted on 02/23/2005 3:36:37 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Hodar; SheLion
When the time comes when you do succumb to the effects of cigarettes; and the odds are high that you will

What exactly does a professional busybody and altruist such as yourself say the odds are? And I guess you think you're gonna live forever.

Hodar has finally found a club that will accept him, the pecksniff, do-as-I-say club. Last picked in all those childhood ball games, wallflower at the school dances, building up resentment all these years, Hodar finally has someone to lash out at with impunity.

Nothing worse or more fanatic than a reformed whore.

Don't worry about him, SheLion, he's making an a$$ of himself on other topics and people are talking... :O)

120 posted on 02/23/2005 4:14:33 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Hodar
Hodar, I think you misunderstand the stance of many of us here on FR that champion the "rights" of the private property owner to allow, or disallow, the use of a legal commodity on their premises.

It's not about the "right to smoke".
Will smoking increase your risk of different cancers and diseases? All scientific proof says yes.
Will free rock climbing increase your chances of death and/or injury? All scientific proof says yes.
Will smoking kill you? No. Genetics has a far greater impact on whether you get any type cancer or disease than smoking does.
Will free rock climbing kill you? No.

The stance of many of us here is that as long as tobacco is a legal commodity, the property owner should be allowed to choose whether they want to allow, or disallow, it's use.

It's not about a, "right to smoke", or encouraging smoking for another. It's about the rights of the private property owner, and antismoker cabal using junk science and lies about ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke) to continue to receive funding, in the millions of dollars, and using the power of government to enforce their likes and dislikes.

123 posted on 02/23/2005 6:39:20 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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