Nutcase/bioterror/Barnes&Nobles

Me | Feb 20, 2005 | Me

[FairOpinion]

You have to remember that these people are willing to die for their cause. Or they could have had a vaccine beforehand, so they can merrily spray away.

[Avenger]

Ok, I reported it on the FBI tips. I will call Santa Monica police tomorrow. The B&N security guard didn't say much of anything. I pointed him out and he said he would keep an eye on him. I am surprised nobody noticed him before me. He was acting very strange - nervous, looking around but clearly not for books or coffee. I spotted him right. I guess most everybody else in the coffee shop was too buzzed on coffee. I should have gotten the phone number of the guy who got sprayed since he will probably be the first to die. :-)

[endthematrix]

In New York City a man was arrested after he was spotted spraying what turned out to be feces-laden water over the contents of a midtown salad bar.

In a NY subway a man got into an altercation with Metropolitan Area Transit Authority security personnel. Sometime during the series of events, the suspect allegedly spraying an unknown substance from a spray bottle into the air. The suspect also reportedly dropped a glass bottle of some sort and it broke, spilling some liquid. (cleaning fluid)


I also remember a man getting arrested for spraying someone and claiming it was anthrax. It was not.

[wideminded]

I'm thinking the guy probably had a serious mental illness and whatever was in the spray bottle was harmless. If someone really wanted distribute a harmful agent in a bookstore, there would be more discrete ways of doing it. Nevertheless you should probably call the police non-emergency number and report it.

[endthematrix]

Unte reader, Liberal repellent.

[FairOpinion]

I am glad you reported it.

Talking about spraying, I just came across this article and posted it:

DEADLY STUN GUN THAT FOOLS AIRPORT X-RAYS (can also spray CS gas)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347103/posts

"The gun, which paralyses with a 50,000 volt shock, can also spray CS gas and could become a favoured weapon of terrorists. It was found during a routine baggage search at Heathrow after its owner had passed through X-ray checks.

One airport-based detective said: "This is a major cause for concern. This stun gun is sophisticated and in the wrong hands lethal with potentially disastrous consequences."

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Of course if it can spray CS gas, it can spray anything else too...

Also, FoxNews had a special on Saddam's bioweapons, that they were making them in spray form and had a lot of perfume bottles, presumably to use those to spray the stuff.

So, seeing anyone spraying around a public place is definitely reportable.

[Iris7]

Like I said, a serum antitoxin is easy to make. A "vaccination" only refers to cowpox or to denatured virus preparations, polio, rabies, etc.

As far as their guys being disposable, it is more that they are expendable. Why waste a guy who is willing and able on something so dumb as the spray bottle in B&N? There are so many vastly more efficient ways to spread bio, ones that I prefer not to go into.

Most likely spray bottle contents are "bodily wastes".

[Cindy]

You did the right Avenger.

Now, before going to sleep, write down the description of the guy with the spray bottle.

[Caipirabob]

If not the real thing, a dry run.

There are no other scenarios to account for this. "Nutecase" is simply part of the same thing.

I would have been completely freaked out too. At least you had enough sense to tell the gaurd.

[Iris7]

"Liberal repellent", heh, heh.

My mind searches for an appropriate agent - a true liberal repellent. Holy water? A stake through the heart?

Maybe thorazine? Schizophrenia, hearing voices, talking to themselves, delusions, hallucinations, etc. Thorazine would be just the ticket.

[tuvals]

Definately report itto the FBI as Barnes & Noble may possibly be asked for their security tapes by whoever may investigate this incident. Personally I would have contacted 911 and had them dispatch police. Reasoning being that a man spraying something out of a bottle in a local bookstore is not normal behavior. I would rather have it be investigated immediately then let it lag. The man with the bottle, whether he be a homeless individual, mentally deficient or just someone playing games should be found and spoken to. Abnormal behavior at the least by this person. Report it immediately.

[Iris7]

Don't get so excited. I have no idea exactly what those people will do next, but a pattern is emerging, and it is interesting.

Dang, I really don't think I should say any more. Use mail if you want advice.

[Iris7]

Get too excited and you will see thousands of copycat incidents. Lots of people would love the attention. Not a crime to spray a little water. A few sprays and a panic stricken crowd runs away, trampling women and children, what a mess.

This would, of cours, totally tie up the police. This will let the real bad guys do whatever it is that they have in mind.

[endthematrix]

Re: Not a crime to spray a little water.

Oh yeah? Try causing a panic doing that. Welcome to the age of anti-terror law.

[Caipirabob]

Well, I'm not convinced that this was a true bio-agent. It could have been his own urine for all likelyhood. Maybe he didn't like paying $45 for that last Hillary book. That could set anyone off...

The thing is that in any case it's unacceptable in this day and age. Such behavior should be shut down as harshly as possible.

It'd still freak me out though. Who does stuff like that without being a nutjob? I'd feel the same hesitation before reporting it, I'm glad this guy did.

BTW - I was reading your homepage even before I even saw your post. Great job. Thanks for your service!

[John Lenin]

Hey, it wasn't mace was it ? In jr high my buddy walked through an all night restaurant at 2:00 am and sprayed mace all the way on his walk. We were chased for about a mile on foot until the big guy couldn't jump the fence that we hopped over. lol

[wingblade]

A real gem of a buddy. Where is he now, jail?

[John Lenin]

Could be, lost track of him a long time ago.

[stopem]

Homeland Security should have a place for people to report something like this. Than I would have left there immediately in case it really was something biological he was spraying.

[Iris7]

Thanks. My wife thinks I have a real strange sense of humor.

Could it be so? Nah, impossible!!!